We all know there’s no difference between them (specially if you live outside the US), but I’m actually impressed how little the Biden campaign is doing. All they really got is “Trump bad”, some bs about inflation being under control (if you exclude rent and food) and “protecting LGBT rights” (which I might have missed but Biden did literally nothing about?).

They should want to win to have their party implement the oligarchic plans and get that sweet sweet lobbying money right? Or are the elites actually preferring Trump right now?

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The Biden campaign also suddenly brought up abortion rights again. They had 4 years to do shit about it and did nothing, so another 4 years will definitely fix it, right?

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While he simultaneously tells the press that he doesn’t believe in bodily autonomy

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And libs eat it right up.

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I could be wrong because I’m in the US, but it’s probably better for people outside the US if Trump wins.

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I am naive enough to think Trump’s US first views may actually destabilize NATO and allow for more world peace.

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It’s just impossible to know which is going to be least worst. Just as it’s impossible to counterfactually know if Trump had won, where we’d be now. There’s no justification to support either. Americans should not participate in the charade.

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The only indicator for this is the idea that he might get the US out of Nato, but this seems like a pipe dream.

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The governments of many EU countries are worried about him which hopefully leads to less US influence in EU politics.

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I fear that might be too optimistic. It’s a double win for libs. Trump’s reactionary rhetoric and policies further the interests of the global capitalist class much more bluntly and quickly than the usual liberal channels, but then when it’s done they can blame every evil act on him and use it as a rallying cry for more supporters. That’s how it is in the US, and I suspect the US sets the standards for the EU more than even its critics would like to admit.

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Hard to say for sure. Trump is more incompetent but he also bolsters specific far-right movements around the world.

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It looks like Trump might pull out of the planned AUKUS pact which as an Australian is something I’m hopeful for. I would love to see the embarrassment of my government if that happens.

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I don’t know, one thing is that he is incompetent to indesisive, to do much damage in the long term, in international matters. But he tried to create armed conflicts in his government, against China, Venezuela, Iran and Syria.

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The two dominant American political parties at its core are about generating revenue. Losing elections do not lower donations by a significant amount while increasing corporate taxes and denouncing genocide does lower donations - even if you win the election.

I don’t think the Biden campaign can say anything actually popular with the people without angering the donor base (price control, rent control, stop genocide, nationalize healthcare, etc) so the Dems are working within the limits of acceptability set by the bourgeoisie overlords.

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I do think if they really wanted to they could stop the genocide they could. They need a colonial outpost in the middle east, not an ethnonationalist genocidal state that undermines your credibility. They could have established comprodore Palistinians to promote peace and integrate them into the society for cheap labor. The CIA has levers to get the Licud party out of power if they really wanted to. This wretched settler state’s excessive methods undermine its own legitimacy. The terrible things the IDF does are like showing off how well built your house is by putting a jackhammer to your house’s foundation.

I suspect is is more than just capitalism.

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yes, it’s capitalism + the vicious inhuman white supremacist western culture. blood for the blood god.

you’re dealing with religious fanatics here. they have two gods, the line god and the blood god.

you make regular blood sacrifices to both. the line god gives you money in return for blood. the blood god gives you nothing. but you still sacrifice to both.

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ah the sorts of people that totally ship Khorne and Slaanesh. WH40k factions are all fascist factions born of fascist ontology but it can describe various forms of real fascism.

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The still beating hearts of the prolariat are sacrificed to empower the Line God to rise each day.

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The end result is basically the same as you said, but for their future strategy it probably makes more sense to have Trump win. It gives them a super easy “Look, everything is bad because Trump was in office, therefore you must vote for us” campaign next time. Lets them run literally any candidate under the sun and probably have even odds at winning. Which means they can safely shift further to the right than they usually do.

Arguably it still doesn’t matter, because any candidate that isn’t pre-annointed would stand no chance of winning anyway, but it definitely makes for a super easy campaign message. Their response to any challenge can just be “Trump spooky. WOOOOOOO”.

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the elites need a scapegoat and Trump is perfect imo. the way i see it, the US wants to escalate the current wars and need a republican scapegoat to bear the blame after, theyve been really struggling to make Biden look not-fascist so they need someone that doesnt care being labeled a fascist.

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