I’m looking for an Apple MacBook Air M2 alternative that could run Linux.

I need something fanless, super lightweight with very long battery life. The only apps I use are Shotcut video editor, Chrome and Firefox.

Any advice?

Is it a good idea to get a MacBook Air m2 and use something like Asahi Linux or should I wait for arm linux laptops to become available.

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I have an M1 MBA and it runs Asahi just fine, for the most part. And it should suit you well too, since you’re only going to use basic apps. Even if there are some limitations currently, you could always run Linux inside a VM such as UTM.

But may I ask why do you want to run Linux, when you’re going to use only those three apps? Objectively, Linux wouldn’t be offering you much in your use case, and in fact if battery life is your primary concern, you’d be better off sticking with macOS. Another option could be a Chromebook.

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But may I ask why do you want to run Linux

If I had to guess, it’s because Linux doesn’t suck.

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Noo you’re not supposed to find your home folder >:[

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I use Asahi too, and at the moment the killing factor is battery depletion while sleeping (50% a day!). Performance wise, working with kdenlive is about on par with an i7 12th gen Intel chip (direct comparison between Thinkpad X1 i7 16g ram 2023 and mbp m2pro 16g ram) - nothing close to the power macos can leverage from the m chip but still perfectly usable. But frustrating in a way.

If you install Asahi, it will be dualboot by default - why not trying it out? The install process is a delight, very well explained.

As for hardware, the Air is pretty unique. There are other fanless stuff out there, but it’s gonna be cheap netbooks without the power to handle video work.

I’d say give Asahi a try ; I love booting mine in front of people and looking at their confused faces when I spin the cube to move a wobbly window around (Though the big Fedora logo at startup is a bit of a giveaway)!

Edit: also, you already own the hardware. Stop wasting money/resources, jut make it do what you want.

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Thanks. I want to run linux because that’s what I’ve used for the past 15 years :) The company I work for has provided us with intel Macbooks, but rarely use it. Instead i do all my work using my own Thinkbook 14s Yoga running Fedora.

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The thinkpad-x13s-snapdragon is fanless and uses a qualcomm snapdragon processor, so an ARM like the macs use but lower performance. Batttery life is reputedly in the 20+ hour range.

Caveats:

  • kinda pricey, 1K
  • this arm chip is slow compared to macs.
  • out of the mainstream so better do your homework on whether linux is well supported.

Laptops based on the snapdragon elite processors will come out this year, and performance should be comparable to the Mx macs. So maybe better to wait. Although, those may be considerably more expensive, and who knows what linux support will be like, especially at first.

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It’s tricky enough getting hardware video encode to work on Linux with “this is just an Intel IGP, the exact same thing as every other Intel IGP”. Decode can even be tricky at times. I am very pessimistic about getting video editing software working on a system as far off the beaten path as a Snapdragon.

If you stick with more mainline hardware, you have fallback positions like “use linux Davinci” or “dual boot Windows and use one of the gazillion tools there”, or “MacOS has its own cavalcade of media tools”.

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The gpu is fully supported to my knowledge.

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Thanks for the points you brought up. Very helpful.

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1k? My last MacBook was 5k

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With the advent of the m3, m2’s and m1’s still in inventory can be a steal, particularly 'Air macs which can be sub-1k easy. My mbp m2pro 16g was 1500. I’m not impressed by real-life macos performance tho, a lot of it is impressive in parts (blender rendering for instance) but everyday life is just the same… Yes, the same hanging Color Wheel Of Doom.

I hope your 5k investment isn’t having sound playback hiccups because dropbox is trying to log in and refresh in the background. I am actually furious with the 10% of the time I have to use macos on this machine.

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My budget for laptops has always been <$350. Why are you willing to spend so much on a laptop?

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If it’s a revenue generating machine, the impact of 10 or 20% improvement in day to day could recoup the additional cost in a few months or a year.

Similarly, for someone who travels a lot, having a useful battery life of 8-10 hours of internet+video playback allows a work routine that is worry free wrt charging and this allows tighter travel schedules.

Ofc, this isn’t the case every time, but this creates anchor effect on several segments of the market. This also doesn’t include the extra cost of “luxury” aka thin and light or small bezels.

350 USD is perfectly fine if you don’t need a ton of battery life or color accurate screen or multimedia or multicore workloads. If you need any of this, most of the options get pricier than 700 USD. It’s not uncommon to have to shell out 1500 USD or more for the desired specs.

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I use asahi on a MacBook air, and love it. The battery life on sleep mode has been improving but it’s nowhere near the voodoo Apple does to MacOs. I recently installed Linux on my Asus machine and found the process and community to be really helpful, so maybe that’s an option for you. Check out https://asus-linux.org/

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My ryzen laptop uses around 10% per day in sleep mode with linux 6.8 kernel

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That’s awesome. My Asus uses a bit more I think but I never measured it. The MacBook air used to die in one day in sleep mode and now it’ll last almost two days, so progress!

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the m1 is fine with asahi. i don’t personally own one but i’ve worked on em in the past and its getting better by the day still.

idk about the m2 but it seems fine. people complain about the battery life being worse on asahi.

it’s gonna be years before arm laptops in general hit the scene in a big way and they’ll have the same problems that smartphones and sbcs have (weird non mainline kernel support, etc).

that’s not to say it isn’t happening, just that it’s happening slowly. you want to be in the big common platform as the transition to arm happens and like it or not, that’s apple.

if i were you i’d get the m2 and dual boot asahi. when its broke you still got the apple os that works fine.

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How about Chromebooks?

You can put Linux on most of them and they’re perfectly capable of (even designed for) running Chrome and Firefox.

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Not on all. Chromebooks are closer to a smartphone, meaning not all drivers are available for Linux.

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If i can run Shotcut and a bit of ffmpeg encoding why not

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