We live in a world where 500+ refugees just drowned off the coast of
Greece while the global north took photos from afar and just let it happen.

We live in a world where even a democratic president in the US is shutting the doors to asylum seekers in the U.S. and not receiving any significant political blowback for it.

We aren’t refugees for having to find a new website.

I am NOT saying this to scold people or to talk condescendingly down from some high horse as if I am more righteous than others, I just don’t want this word to catch on because there is so much pain and suffering happening to refugees in this world.

Imagine you were a refugee and you joined the fediverse because you were curious about it and the first thing you saw was people calling themselves refugees for having to… make an account on a new website. Would you feel welcome or like this place was for you?

37 points

I generally disagree with language policing like this. If we’re not allowed to use metaphors then language becomes very boring indeed.

permalink
report
reply
36 points

Alternatively, lets live in a world where metaphors are taken as metaphors and not as something that suggests the two things are exact equivalents

permalink
report
reply
12 points

Yeah, that seems like exactly the kind of selfserving virtue signaling that makes the left look like a bunch of edgelords.

But I guess, it’s easier to start such “actions” to feel like you’re doing something than actually doing something. (not that I’m actually doing something, but I’m not pretending either)

In German, there’s a relatively new phrase for that: Gratismut, free bravery. On the surface it looks “brave”, but it’s actually 100% riskfree and has no consequences whatsoever. But you do look brave.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Man I’d kill for a hamburger right now.

DON’T YOU KNOW SOMEBODY IS BEING KILLED RIGHT NOW? JOHN FERDERBACHER KENNEDY WAS KILLED DON’T USE THAT WORD HOW DARE YOU?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Alternately, “Okay, here’s a knife, there’s a bull. You can discuss the matter of killing for hamburger with him. Good luck!”

permalink
report
parent
reply
24 points

All language is metaphor.

“Reddit refugee” is a metaphor that conceptually makes a lot of sense and sounds good to the ear. No one using this term is making a political statement about asylum seekers.

permalink
report
reply
1 point

tbf it wouldn’t surprise me too much if someone made a political point out of it. But if so they can probably be ignored.

permalink
report
parent
reply
22 points

We live in a world

Have you perhaps considered that we live in a society?

permalink
report
reply
6 points

And yet you participate in it! Curious!

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points
*

Interesting thought that is definitely worth considering. I used the term “Reddit refugee” in reference to my status. I am a little hesitant to shrink language by turning it into a competition or making words political. Refugee legitimately has multiple definitions, and the appropriate course of action would be to qualify the term; political refugee or Reddit refugee.

This sort of concept leads to all sorts of other similar issues. If I am having difficulty making it through a hike and I comment that I need to just “soldier on”, does that make light of the sacrifices of real soldiers who are dying all over the world? Should most people be disallowed from saying that they are starving because there are people in the world who are actually starving and not just hungry? Is it insensitive to say that I’m struggling to make it through the day at work when others, somewhere, are struggling to even stay alive?

For what it is worth, I’m okay with “refugee” by itself implying “political refugee”, and requiring other forms to be qualified.

permalink
report
reply

Fediverse

!fediverse@kbin.social

Create post

This magazine is dedicated to discussions on the federated social networking ecosystem, which includes decentralized and open-source social media platforms. Whether you are a user, developer, or simply interested in the concept of decentralized social media, this is the place for you. Here you can share your knowledge, ask questions, and engage in discussions on topics such as the benefits and challenges of decentralized social media, new and existing federated platforms, and more. From the latest developments and trends to ethical considerations and the future of federated social media, this category covers a wide range of topics related to the Fediverse.

Community stats

  • 3

    Monthly active users

  • 680

    Posts

  • 3.9K

    Comments

Community moderators