Damn, her arm looks like it belongs on a 90 year old.
“She ate only durian and jackfruit for seven years,” said a friend
Holy shit.
https://nypost.com/2023/07/31/vegan-influencer-starved-to-death-friends/
Sad. Got an infection and died. Body was to weak to fight it off. You can live years on these shit diets but you will run into health problems that become bigger than they need to be. The body needs animal foods to repair itself properly.
There’s a huge difference between a plant based diet and only eating fruit, which this person did. A well balanced plant based diet is nutritionally complete.
A well balanced plant based diet is nutritionally complete.
False. Plant based diets miss many different nutrients
List of known nutrients that vegan diets either can’t get at all or are typically low in, especially when uninformed and for people with special needs. Vegans will always say that “you can get X nutrient from Y specific source”, but a full meal plan with sufficient quantities will essentially highlight how absurd a “well-planned” vegan diet is.
- Vitamin B12
- Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxal, Pyridoxamine)
- Choline
- Niacin (bio availability)
- Vitamin B2
- Vitamin A (Retinol, variable Carotene conversion)
- Vitamin D3 (winter, northern latitudes, synthesis requires cholesterol)
- Vitamin K2 MK-4 (variable K1 conversion)
- Omega-3 (EPA/DHA; conversion from ALA is inefficient, limited, variable, inhibited by LA and insufficient for pregnancy)
- Iron (bio availability)
- Zinc (bio availability)
- Calcium
- Selenium
- Iodine
- Protein (per calorie, digestibility, Lysine, Leucine, elderly people, athletes)
- Creatine (conditionally essential)
- Carnitine (conditionally essential)
- Carnosine
- Taurine (conditionally essential)
- CoQ10
- Conjugated linoleic acid
- Cholesterol
- Arachidonic Acid (conditionally essential)
- Glycine (conditionally essential)
Historically, humans have always needed animal products and are highly adapted to meat consumption. There has never been a recorded civilization of humans that was able to survive without animal foods. Isotopic evidence shows that the first modern humans ate lots of meat and were the only natural predator of adult mammoths. Most of their historic technology and cave paintings revolved around hunting animals. Our abilities to throw and sweat likely developed for this reason. Our stomach’s acidity is in the same range as obligate carnivores and its shape has changed so much from other hominids that we can’t even digest cellulose anymore. The vegan diet is born out of ideology, not science.
Please tell me which of these you wouldn’t feasibly get through a well balanced plant based diet? I see this thoroughly debunked copypasta constantly, and the assumptions it makes are laughable. It ignores critical things like fortified foods, nutrients in non-plants like mushrooms and yeast, and how absorption of vitamins can be enhanced (for example, vitamin C greatly enhances absorption of non-heme iron).
At the very minimum you need protein and fat, not just sugar that seems to be all she ate.
The fruit she ate had all that
Calories: 357. Fat: 13 grams. Carbs: 66 grams. Fiber: 9 grams. Protein: 4 grams. Vitamin C: 80% of the Daily Value (DV) Thiamine: 61% of the DV. Manganese: 39% of the DV.
The protein would not be complete. Nothing like a slice of liver though.
not simply vegan but fruitarian, that’s sad
I’ve looked in to fruitarian a bit and it sounds interesting, I haven’t found meatlessness to work well for myself for any extended period of time
here’s another lefty kind of, I like some of “xir” stuff, but they tried going vegan and didn’t feel well and went back to eating meat and I feel like we need more good stories of ex-vegan leftists to possibly dissuade them from being vegan: https://www.robingreenfield.org/veganism/
Vegans are a disgusting disgrace to humanity, we literally evolved to eat meat what do you think our canines and premolars are for if not to eat meat. Yet these dumbasses are trying to say it’s somehow better for us to eat plants.
Interesting. You shared a cross sectional data analysis that criticizes other studies for not accounting for enough confounding variables, even though the Adventist study I shared already accounts for more variables.
The high life expectancy rates for Hong Kong have been attributed to much lower rates of smoking, and higher per capita wealth.
Again, I appreciate the concern, but I stopped eating meat 14 years ago and I’m doing great!
It’s basically a rebuttal of your adventist study. Which is a terrible study and a example of how bad science can mislead people. It’s pushed by religious zealots. And even within that community they aren’t vegan at all. Cheese and eggs have most of the important animal nutrition. So if poor nutrition causes a short life adding in milk, cheese, and eggs is going to greatly reduce that. Anyways, other’s have pointed out that smoking has been controlled for. When ever someone mentions smoking they always brush over like Japan, South Korea, the decreased rate of smoking in America with decreased beef consumption and now life getting shorter. There is no correlation between high meat consumption and lower life expectancy when you control for junk food. It almost always results in a higher life expectancy. But more importantly
THERE IS NO OBSERVATIONAL STUDY that shows meat to reduce life expectancy. Not one.
All of these studies are done with highly inaccurate questionnaires. Where they can just ignore whole sets of data they don’t agree with. Which is why it’s better just to look at total meat consumption per capita than believe highly politicized garbage meta analysis that don’t prove anything and at best suggest more study.
But I really wonder. Vegans practical worship the way Indians eat. If meat consumption contributed to heart disease at all, why don’t Indians live to 70?
that is the closest mankind has ever gotten to a vegetarian society. They still eat chicken, milk, occasional goat but overall their meat consumption is some of the lowest.
they eat whole foods too.
