Officer Joshua Coleman chased and shot an 18 year old in the back while they ran. Then had the audacity to tell him “I’m going to save your life.”. This is the fifth (as if this article) shooting that this lunatic has been involved in. He was previously found to have bent tip(s) on his badge, which is something cops do to mark their fatal shootings. ACAB.
“I’m going to save your life” reeks of his God complex. He knows better than his damn government. And I wonder how long his camera battery has been dead. How many days.
I only know ONE police officer personally. And he’s a huge egotistic sack of racist shit.
A good friend of mine has an older brother that is a state trooper and I have heard him say … “… A dead suspect can’t defend himself in court” multiple times.
But I also my tenant who is a new state trooper and he is the nicest guy I have ever met. Maybe he isn’t tainted yet.
My father is a retired cop and a genuinely good guy. Despite that, he still listens to Conservative radio and rants about the rising crime rates and how the US needs to do a better job of enforcing the “rule of law”. No matter how nice a cop may be, they still participate in a system that hammers into them that the only way to reduce crime is more policing. It’s a system that perpetuates itself by spreading fear.
I work in municipal government, and different departments have very different police. It really comes diem to leadership and accountability.
In my last city, the police department wasn’t founded until around 2010. The city manager who hired all their leadership at the beginning was a black man who had seen bad policing in his day.
They started with the understanding that shit don’t fly. They all wore body cams from the moment the department was founded. They get most of their hires fresh from the academies so they haven’t been tainted. They focus on public safety and compliance instead of punishment (in 2023 they wrote 4 tickets between 20 officers). It’s a great department.
My current city is different. They exist to chase poor people and minorities out of the city. When there was a major collapse in a road, I (the maps and permits guy) was out there flagging traffic myself because the police chief didn’t see it (public safety) as their problem. They go to the"warrior cop" seminars and just meet every stereotye of the bad cop.
The rest of the city staff hates them for a million reasons, but primarily because they’re useless. We could just use the county sheriff’s office and highway patrol and achieve everything we need to, but instead over half our staff positions are wasted on police when we don’t even have a public works department or city engineer.
Disgusting. I hope he gets life.
No, life would be better. Death is a painless solution, while living as a former pig in a maximum security prison is going to leave him with PTSD, anxiety, fear, and hopefully plenty of physical abuse.
Maybe, but your idea for a punishment is a total pipe dream. He will not get a significant sentence…if he sees any punishment at all. In the grand scheme of things a family member of this kid finding him and shooting him in the face as his family watches is simply more likely to happen.
Also probably not going to happen but…whatever. Thats the country we live in. 3 years from now he will be cleared of all wrong doing.
Why? To have his buddies in the system help release him early but still broken psychologically to abuse the family who had finally gotten use to a new normal without the red marks from the thin blue line? To have that shell of an abuser go out into the world, hating the people around him for not understanding that his reality was enforcing the distinction between the elite alpha wolf first responders in life and the glue sniffing degenerate civilians that need to be protected from themselves - except now he’s not privileged. He’s now one of the people he has grown to despise and he can’t stand it. He grows resentful and eventually kills himself and/or those around him.
You’re telling me the police statement lied??? I am SHOCKED. yeah right.
Police statement are always false, always. Never believe them. That’s why I didn’t buy it a few days ago when everyone on Lemmy was saying the kid deserved it
I will say that at least in this case the kid had guns. Usually they don’t even have that and get murdered. This is more justified than usual cop involved shootings, but still not justified. The fact that a lot of the others get away with it tell me this guy probably will too.
So he got killed for dropping the guns when told to? The article may not be explicit enough with the timeline, but at least implies that
Well, he dropped one of the guns. The other didn’t leave his hand until shot, per the video. So for whatever reason he hadn’t let go of the second gun. He didn’t manage to do anything vaguely looking like aiming the gun, but he certainly hadn’t dropped the second gun at the point he got shot.
Think this is a tough one to use for either side of the argument. On the one hand, he didn’t quite manage to raise the gun or face the officer. On the other hand he might have been about to find some cover and return fire too quickly for the officer to react, since the gun was in hand, depending on what was in front of them.
I don’t have it off the top of my head, but the usual “he was running at us blasting so we had to do it”
Wow. Anyone who believes this at face value is part of the problem.
Misinformation and propaganda are spread on all sides, guys. Try to rise above it even if you like it.
(most of you won’t)
this is just murder
The cop literally said “drop the gun, drop the gun, drop the gun or I’ll shoot you.”
It’s sad how people like you think people should be allowed to behave like this without getting shot.
What are you talking about?
He was running away with a gun. The cop literally said “drop the gun, drop the gun, drop the gun or I’ll shoot you.”
It’s sad how people like you think people should be allowed to behave like this without getting shot.
That cop did his duty and I support him wholeheartedly. Most of the people on these forums need a reality check, because whatever is upvoted is not always correct.
He did drop his gun. You can see it in the video, he yeeted that fuckin thing. There is NO REASON to shoot someone in the back, because if their back is towards you, they are not a threat to you. The only people who shoot other people in the back are fucking cowards, you fucking coward.
Cops aren’t allowed to perform summary executions. It doesn’t matter what the cop demanded he do. He’s not allowed to execute people for disobedience.
That wasn’t a summary execution, though.
Stop replacing reality with your fantasies if you want to be taken seriously by rational people.
It’s sad how people like you think people should be allowed to behave like this without getting shot.
Jesus fucking Christ. You do not belong in society.
The sheriff’s office did not release body camera video of the shooting as the sheriff’s office said Officer Joshua Coleman’s body camera batteries died before the pursuit and he hadn’t been able to return to the charging station.
How the fuck do they not have 12 charged backup batteries and 2 chargers in every car?!?!? I mean, I know how, but what the actual fuck.
Id be willing to bet the batteries were just fine. Or intentionally not charged.
Those companies charge the taxpayers out the ass for those cameras and storage. I live in a very small town and it costs $60k/yr just for axon body and car cameras plus storage.
Worth every penny, and far from a large expense for cop budgets.
The LAPD cost more than 50% of the ENTIRE LA budget. Just the cops. Everything else combined costs less than one department.
If that footage is safe/secure/available and makes these murderous thugs think twice about pulling the trigger, then its worth twice the price.
Even for a small town, the yearly budget is likely in the millions of dollars. 60k/year shouldn’t be a crippling expense.
This logic doesn’t really track because every expense that makes up their current budget is made up of many smaller expenses just like this.
Every expense has to be guarded, that’s how budgets work. Each additional expense without a budgetary increase means that those expenses have to be taken out of something else.
Lol, that’s crazy.
Definitely getting scammed. There’s no reason for it to be that expensive.
Just use your own brains, purchase your own cameras, and use your own storage. $60k per year? Yeah. You all are definitely getting scammed.
But useful idiots will see otherwise, as they always do.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
Even if you would come up with some gopros in fancy casing, 8-9h/day of uncompressed, 1080p video that has to be hosted “in the cloud” (and transferred via 4g or the) for each and every cop adds up pretty quickly.
And don’t mind that they surely find every way possible to break them, so take them as basically consumables along with the batteries and the casings…
Do you have any idea how everything cops use is expensive, because it’s “for law enforcement”?
60k$/yr is negligible in a department’s budget and especially for the value it adds (even with POS cops).
EDIT: the videos are most certainly compressed! But my argument is that it still remains pretty large files to upload and host.
