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The loopholes are there by design, it’s not a mistake. Just look up lobbying in the United States.

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It’s funny watching whatever whacko shit politicians have to say any time theyre asked a question that challenges the status quo. Thes3 people truly suck.

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The problem isn’t that they want to ban Tik Tok, it’s that they completely ignore ever other questionable app. Let’s make laws that address both data harvesting as well as platforms that use misinformation to manipulate large groups of people in exchange for money. We already know Facebook has been guilty of this but as an American company they can offer campaign donations to make politicians forget the problem. Sigh.

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Absolutely. Is apps using addictive based systems to hook people in and then harvest their data aggressively to turn around and sell it to groups who use that data however they want an issue?
It sure feels like it should be. And if it is then it should be an issue of any app doing so.

But it’s keeping the wheels on this economic disaster of a ride. So only the ones that don’t pay directly back into the country letting this run full scale without restrictions because of small kickbacks, aren’t ok?

It becomes abhorrently two-faced. And it should be apparent by now that the wealth generated by these American companies are not actually being shared with the American government or people. But getting to be close to it and get small feedings from them is enough to appease our geriatric/out of touch ruling class.

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I’ll give you one guess as to which company has lobbied for this bill.

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It’s a good start tho. Fuck the CCP.

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Banning TikTok and not banning Meta and Google is a stupid idea that will just give more power to the fewer people with less competition. They are all bad of course and they should all be banned, but giving one bad group all the power is worse then letting two bad groups compete for power.

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OK, you have this all wrong. Let me explain what the differences is. Tiktok has NO COMPETITION. Tiktok’s ***intent *** is not like the others. The others are competing for ad revenue. Tiktok’s purpose is solely to influence us Americans. Tiktok doesn’t care about your ad revenue or even a sustainable business. They are banked rolled by the CCP.

If META or Google(um…what social media company does google have?) was banked rolled by Russia and had its servers all there and the app was installed on 75% of all Americans, they essentially have eyes and ears on everyone in America. But they are not owned by Russia. Its own by stakeholders who only care about money and how much they will make them.

While I agree that META and Google(really google?) has too much control over our data, at the very least the intent is not to disrupt the American democracy.

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I’m sorry, what evidence do you have that they don’t care about ad revenue, or that no other businesses are interested in influencing elections?

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Google owns Youtube (and gmail, most popular mail provider). You should think more deeply about what ads are and what are governments motivations. It is both the same thing. Google and META want power, they want money, because money is a voting power for allocation of resources in the society. Chinese governments want power, so they can have more money and more voting power for allocations of their resources.

The nationality of people in these governments doesn’t matter at all to them. Chinese government doesn’t care about regular Chinese citizens no more then US government does about their own. They simply care for their own power/money. And that is their interests.

Google and META work with the governments, they have actual NSA offices and follow any orders from the government, just like TikTok does. The problem here has nothing to do with what country it is in, it is simply that one set of rich folks are bothered that they can’t control something other rich folks are controlling. People, in both cases, suffer and have no power whatsoever in the process.

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TikTok has no competition? Reels for Instagram, Shorts for Youtube.

They copied TikToks format, because it does that format very well.

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Senator I’m from Singapore

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This is how elites can keep bamboozling us. How the fuck our life would improve without tiktok? At least If you ban every personalized social network or add strong regulation to them, but no, just ban tiktok and pretend you are doing something. CCP can eat shit, I’m worried about what is happening around me and not in a country in the other side of the planet.

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An adverserial nation in control of an algorithm that influences and effects behaviors here in the united states effects you.

Have you not once considered the NSA or silicon giants a potential adversary?

At least with NSA you could say for the purpose of national security, but Google would happily kill people for money if they figured out a way to not get caught.

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Any examples on how this has taken effect?

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Reading your other comments, it reminds me of boomers on facebook. Have you ever used instagram? Try reading the comment section of a black guy or a woman or a muslim or worse all combined.

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If only there was someone in government who was workin on that shit

(I don’t know how directly the simple 15% minimum has already impacted things, but taking a quick look at e.g. Amazon, it definitely looks like they’re paying more after December of 2022 versus before.)

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This is the part where everyone ignores the fact that, once again, Biden has already done the good thing.

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They’re gonna get it banned just in time to disenfranchise young voters immediately before the election

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disenfranchise

I’m no authority on words, I am an anarchist when it comes to words and so are all my favorite authors but I feel like this word is very commonly used in exactly the way you are using it.

I reckon 99% of people reading your post understood what you meant.

It’s a word, and it is the correct way to use it. If you disagree, fight me, I will open an alot-sized can of Ouchies on you.

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That’s not what disenfranchisement means rofl

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Holy shit you’re right I’m too tired for this shit

I’m looking for dis-something. Dissuade? Disillusion? Disinclined? Man fuck English the Democrats are gonna piss off young people is what I mean

This could be a slam dunk year for either party and they’re both insistent on keeping voter turnout as low as possible. Democrats are saying “yeah, let’s complain about illegals killing Americans and give some more weapons to Israel” and the Republicans are doing so dogshit that Haley lost to None Of These Candidates in her own state primary, and she was still the person with the most votes

Democrats are like “youngins like TikTok? Let’s ban it, that’ll get em to vote for us” and the republicans respond with “oh yeah? Well we’re gonna ban porn!” And the average American has less reason to vote in November than the average Russian did this month

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Discourage? I dunno.

I guess I could say that young people are such flaky voters, it’s not worth caring about what pisses them off too much. Breathing the wrong way, a made up deepfake, mercury being in retrograde, all of these are unforgivable offenses to young voters. Young voters are like that crazy girlfriend who has a dream you cheated on her so she’s pissed at you for weeks.

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