All:
As the mod for this community I just wanted to drop this note:
A community purportedly a clone of an overtly political, fascistic, misogynistic, and trolling subreddit was set up on this instance and, as a result, there has been discussion in the greater fediverse to defederate sh.itjust.works.
When I am a net control station, as when I’m operating any radio, I do not discuss politics and follow good amateur practice. When I was a kid I was taught that the hobby was to facilitate emergency communications, enhance technical progress, and promote international goodwill. I’m firmly of the opinion politics messes up that last point, in particular.
While, I don’t want our hobby affiliated with hateful and violent content, I also want discussion to reach as broad an audience as possible. To that end, defederation would be unacceptable. Should sh.itjust.works be defederated I will be terminating my account and moving elsewhere. Should someone else choose to be a mod, I’ll leave it up to you to decide but I will not be sticking around and will either delete this community (if possible), set up another amateur_radio community, or join an already existing one.
I appreciate you understanding and consideration.
I totally agree with you. Reddit was authoritarian and removed communities it didn’t like. Lemmy is supposed to be open. I am disappointed by the discussion on this topic. People lose their level-headedness and rational thinking in situations like these. Their inner caveman comes out. It’s so disappointing.
Reddit was authoritarian and removed communities it didn’t like
After scandalous media attention perhaps.
I obviously don’t know how long you were on the site, but most of reddit’s worst actors lived long and healthy lives, while some interesting ones (e.g. Unidan) got zapped on easy technicalities.
Yeah, it’s not to say that he didn’t violate ToS — more that a user like Violentacrez had to go down like the Hindenburg for their account to be removed while the funny trivia guy is permabanned for vote manipulation. Just saying that reddit isn’t authoritarian, they’re corporate; they hide their ugly niches and collect revenue from them until they become unprofitable.
I didn’t migrate from reddit in order to give Nazis a platform. If instances don’t want to federate with instances that don’t police hate speech/ advocating cruelty/violence to people who are different then those instance are well within their rights.
This is why the block button exists. Your line isn’t the same as everyone else’s line. Outside of illegal content, spam or targeted harassment, there is going to be ambiguity and debate which doesn’t call for full isolation of servers that don’t comply with a particular set of ethics.
I personally have no horse in this race, though I can’t say I advocate for emotionally driven decisions.
“Okay, we’re almost ready to throw out the bath water, just gotta get the baby.”
I can appreciate your dedication to universal goodwill and what steps might be needed to proliferate such ideals.
Here’s to this community not needing to move.
I really don’t want to move. It is easy to block a community as a user but I think the rush to judgment leads a lot of the internet mob, though well intentioned, to get out the pitchforks and torches and burn down their own houses. One instance, as I understand it has already defederated sh.itjust.works.
Correct. That would be the mods at Beehaw. However, there are plans in place to refederate at some point in the future. (Basically as Lemmy grows and gets more moderation features.)
So far the community you are referring to has 2 users actively posting, and all of their content is getting down voted to oblivion.
I am anxious about the next steps. You are right regarding the velocity of mob rule.
There are logical reasons for defederation and also for relying on community blockage. Freedom of expression cannot supercede respect for your fellow living bean.
I think a big part being missed is that this community isn’t reddit and never will be (thank heavens). I
hope for cooler heads.
I hosted my own instance specifically so I can keep political bs out of it, and ban any users that start in with it on no political threads. I don’t care one bit about politics, and if I can keep it out of my instance, I will.
I used lemmy-easy-deploy to get it installed on a vps I use. Then I just use that to connect to the other communities I’m interested in, and just those communities. It was pretty easy to get up and going if you are familiar with running a VPS.
You can also host it locally. I think there are instructions on the github for doing so. It just allows me to have a nice place to get all of my stuff instead of having logins at different places or worrying about an instance suddenly going down and taking my account with it.
I just block people locally that keep posting political bs, or constantly post crap about whatever is going on with the latest reddit drama in /c/technology It keeps my instance much cleaner.
And if they move to your instance, will you petition the greater community to defederate yours? Fuck the fascists, but they are going to find their corners of the internet.
Edit: not that you have an instance. Its just generally this feels kinda BS to give so much power to the name of a small community no one likes anyway.