Hi, I’ve been meaning to make a travel-friendly ergonomic keyboard setup for a couple years ago after starting /r/ergomobilecomputers, so far just been on a raised tablet setup with a regular keyboard (a setup I’ve enjoyed, but will confess I’ve some slight pain from using a standard keyboard with it)
What kinds of recovery stories have you experienced yourself or heard from others in using a certain ergomechkeyboard?
Were there things outside of having a more ergonomic setup that helped (i.e. just better sleep, diet, hygiene, mood) too?
Basically curious to hear some stories of how these things have helped fellow jank-embracers!
I did try searching around the original sub for ‘pain’ and ‘rsi’ but feel like it may be worth asking again on here.
UPDATE: Thanks again for all the stories so far both here and on the related reddit thread! Made me revise a brainstorm keyboard idea that could facilitate redirecting pinky use on the left control key + right arrow keys to something that uses the thumb + index finger instead.
Not really. Ulnar nerve issues. I’m on the wait list to see specialist. Ergo consultants think my setup is spot on. Use Kinesis Advantage 360 Pro a Glove80 and a basic TKL at the moment. Mixing it up is best, but the TKL causes the least amount of pain heh.
Yes. And the best part is that I use my custom Dactyl Manuform like board and a vertical mouse while working; the computer I do gaming/creative stuff on still uses a regular flat board and a standard mouse and the pain doesn’t return as long as I use both systems regularly.
Yes, but I think mostly because it’s split and tented more than having a columnar stagger. I’m currently using a Sofle rgb v2.1. Using a vertical mouse also saved my right elbow. Whenever I travel for work and use my laptop’s keyboard, I have to take long breaks every 90 minutes because my joints flare up that quickly.
I say this as someone who’s fully in the weirdo zone, currently typing this from a 30-key board of my own invention with a strange layout: I don’t think going beyond something like a Microsoft Natural keyboard will do a whole lot for rsi. Don’t get me wrong, it’s fun and it does help! But realistically I think you hit diminishing returns pretty quickly.
In my experience, most bouts of typing pain that I’ve encountered in two decades as a professional software developer have ultimately been caused by myofascial issues in my arms, shoulders, and neck. The muscles in your upper back and neck can shoot pain, tingling, and numbness down your arms, hands, and fingers, far away from where the actual problem is. For example your scalene muscles in the base your neck, which can get tight from sitting with raised tense shoulders, can cause pain and numbness in your wrist, thumb, and index finger. Ditto with your infra- and supraspinatus muscles in your upper back. No amount of wacky layouts and homerow mods will correct that, but getting a deep tissue massage (or better yet, learning to do it yourself) will.
As nerdy people living in a consumer culture, I think it’s natural to want to search for a technical solution or a product to buy, and certainly having equipment that allows you to work in a comfortable and relaxed posture is important, but learning about the body and how to do some basic muscle maintenance will likely serve you better than waffling between 30g vs 35g springs in your switches.
Now that being said, I do have a messed up joint in one of my thumbs from a few too many skateboard crashes, and it does not bend in certain directions. Keyboards with very “tucky” thumb clusters or too heavy a spring on that switch are painful to use, and changing to a board that more naturally accommodates that injury absolutely does help.
I could have stopped with a Microsoft Natural keyboard and been fine pain-wise, but I had already started down the mechanical rabbit hole and missed the feeling of mechanical switches. The basic ideas of split, tenting, and reverse tilt helped a ton, but I could have been fine without column stagger or a reduced layout.
I now use a 40-key low profile column staggered split with Colemak-DH and it’s a joy to type on. Learning Colemak-DH was probably the lowest benefit to effort of all the changes I’ve made, so I don’t exactly recommend it. Now that I’ve already spent the time to learn it, though, it’s definitely comfy to type on. If you want a mobile setup though, I think a split board like a Corne, Sweep, or Totem, or one of the many derivatives would be a great upgrade for your tablet setup. There are a few solutions for tenting but you may find you don’t need it - while it was essential for me at first I’m now fine using a split board flat on the desk.
I also found a vertical mouse made a big difference- I used the $15 one from Anker for a few years. Trackballs can be good too. I also noticed holding my phone put my wrist at an awkward angle, so I got a pop socket and that was helpful too.
