“Walt Bismarck,” a neoreactionary/alt-right blogger, decided to live by his beliefs and move from the liberal hellhole of Arizona to the midwest:

In 2018 I moved from a racially diverse swing state in the Sun Belt to a homogenous red state up in corn country. This decision was largely motivated by politics—I was looking to retreat to an imagined hyperborea free of crime and degeneracy where my volk had political autonomy.

The particular delight here is the section “Reason #3 - White people are no longer my most important ingroup”.

It turns out they don’t like him, they don’t like his ideas, and the white womenfolk don’t take to him. The frauleins prefer “stoic chudbots with rough hands and smooth brains” over his noble mind and physique.

In practice a society that encourages late marriage is actually much better for more bookish eccentric guys, who tend to be late bloomers in developing their masculinity and ability to seduce women.

(meaning: he came on weird at one of the nice church girls he was ogling to the point where one of her large guy friends suggested he take his leave.)

Our guy comes so close to introspection, but successfully evades it and reaches the root cause - these are the wrong kind of white people:

But these Midwesterners aren’t descended from entrepreneurial adventurers like the rest of us. Their forebears were conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics who fled Bismarck’s kulturkampf to acquire cheap land under the Homestead Act. These people mostly settled areas where aggro Scotch Irish types had driven off the Injun decades ago, so they never had to embrace the risk-tolerant, enterprising, itinerant mindset that had once fueled Manifest Destiny. Instead they produced families that became weirdly attached to their generic little plot of fungible prairie dirt, and as a result we now have huge pockets of the country full of overcivilized and effete Teutons with no conquering spirit who treat outsiders like shit.

There is no shortage of genuine and active neo-Nazis out Iowa way. But they would have met Wordy NRx Boy here and flushed his head.

In the comments section, other racists call him out on his insufficient devotion to the cause of white nationalism.

Even our good friends at The Motte took the piss out of him.

The illustrations are, of course, AI-generated.

original post. Found on Bluesky by ratelimitexceeder.

102 points

This was worse than I imagined from the quotes. I feel like I need to take a shower, now.

[…] which would severely limit the Federal Reserve’s ability to control the economy while exporting inflation abroad, and likely bring our material standard of living down to a German or Dutch level

According to this Quality of Life index which I just searched up and have not critically assessed, but I doubt the guy did that either for his claims, so I guess it’s fine, the Netherlands rank second and Germany ranks 12th, while the US is on the 15th place. In other words: what is he even talking about?

Every day in this country more and more Hispanics marry corn-fed blonde midwesterners and produce pale Castizo children who only speak English, consider themselves basically White, and vote like Irish and Italians.

Jesus fucking Christ, I can’t even come up with a funny sneer here because this reads like he just pulled it out of the 1940s Nazi Party’s bag of race laws for who’s allowed to marry whom, and it’s making me feel icky.

I also subscribe to the old fascist idea that adversity gives life meaning. A comfortable and easy life without struggle or conflict is miserable, and just makes you a slave to the hedonic treadmill. When you live for pleasure, no pleasure is ever enough, and continued success will just leave you so pampered that any task that’s challenging or outside your comfort zone will begin to feel onerous.

Ignoring the low-hanging fruit that this guy just flat-out said “well, fascism wasn’t all bad”, what kind of toxic consumer mentality is ingrained in these chucklefucks that they are seemingly unable so sit their sorry asses down on the couch and just say, yeah, I’m happy right now, to the point where they just postulate that other people must feel the same way, because they just can’t imagine anyone being different?

Like, seriously, get a hobby or something.

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always love* it when these guys get so race scientist they start on different groups of white people

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This is fundamentally a part of any kind of race science or racism.

This is also what it means when the antiracists say race is a social construct.

You can’t actually define any of these races rigorously in the first place. It’s a subjective assessment. The racists define race backwards from tribe in order to categorize the people they hate as physically different to justify their hate

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This is fundamentally a part of any kind of race science or racism.

And fascism! Or any discriminatory -ism, up to and including capitalism.

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@dgerard Whiteness is a movable feast. (Ask anyone who’s Jewish, or LGBT+, or Italian/Irish in the USA in the 19th century or Hispanic in the USA before/after the 1970s).

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Ayuuuuuuuup. Movable feast is a great term for it. Even once formerly ostracized groups get permitted into the in-group, their membership is strictly conditional on serving the interests of those closer into the center of the Whiteness construct. Stop being useful, watch how fast the old hate rears its ugly head again.

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remember how Germans used to be swarthy

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His glowing reference to the “aggro Scots Irish” reminded me that the “Scots Irish” are descended from Ulster Protestants, and that it wasn’t fun being an Irish Catholic in Northern Ireland for much of the 20th century. Ian Paisley famously said that Catholics “breed like rabbits”.

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I suspect there are people who have complicated theories about the relative whiteness rankings, and thus superiority, of natives of Belgium, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands.

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Yes there are, or were. The OG Nazis treated Dutch POWs slightly better than French ones, for instance.

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Dude, showering is exactly what I feel like now. I clicked the post to be nice and read, but only got a couple paragraphs before I just skimmed and picked out the “JFC” bits.

Then the first comment on the blog mentions how sad it is that you lose your “genetic whiteness” in 9 generations and just…goddamn…why is this an issue? Genetic purity is a fucking impossibility due to sheer randomness, let alone the implications of “keeping it white.”

I try to be empathetic where possible, but fuck these people and their entire worldview.

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Genetic purity is a fucking impossibility due to sheer randomness, let alone the implications of “keeping it white.”

you assume that he has basic knowledge of biology

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I, for one, vote for these “genetic purists” to only procreate with their peers and keep the circle closed from “those dirty Italians/Irish/Scots/Teutons/Slavs”. How many generations until the problem solves itself, 5?

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At least he’s old school racist enough to be racist towards Irish and Italians.

Most people have forgotten, or were never educated on, how oppressed those groups used to be.

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When you’re white, but not the right kind.

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In a nutshell, he ended up hating many Germans, white and almost white Hispanics, Irish, Italians, who else…? Pickiest white supremacist I’ve read in a while.

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Like, seriously, get a hobby or something.

For real. I don’t even necessarily disagree with the broad-strokes idea of “if you’re comfortable, it’s good to take on challenges and get outside of your comfort zone because that’s how you grow as a person,” but why can’t he just apply this energy to writing a terrible novel or learning to paint watercolors or something, like a normal person? Why does the fact his life is comfortable mean he has to become a Nazi? :/

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Well look what happened to the last one of these who tried to paint watercolours

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He should’ve stuck with it

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He’ll be judging standard of living by raw GDP/PPP per capita, where the US does indeed notoriously outperform everybody by an absurd margin. This does the rounds even on the “serious” econ net every few months, and it’s always the same paper thin sophistic ideas going back and forth arguing whether it’s telling you something meaningful about euro vs us living. In any case a good portion of self-assessed intellectual types have been drowning in that debate for about two decades (or more) so it’s always easy to spot lurking in the background: it’s a shibboleth for people who’ve self-educated on development by reading blogs.

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GDP/PPP per capita aren’t higher in the US:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gdp-per-capita-by-country

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/purchasing-power-parity-by-country

The USian economy in indeed bigger than all the others, but definitely not per capita.

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“isn’t higher” than what? the GDP figures from your own link there indicate the US is among the highest. the only ones above it in the 2023 figures are Luxembourg, Ireland, Switzerland, Norway, Singapore, Qatar (each of which is singularly notable for a particular thing in their respective markets) - thus placing the US GDP figures ahead of literally every remaining country

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Ah, the idea that merely living in the same country as some rich people means that you yourself are rich.

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Seems like he gets his pleasure from ‘conflict’, ie being a troll, and is upset that all the other white boys aren’t just like him. Maybe he finds being content too onerous. Tie him to a couch and force him to listen to a polite discussion, call it a challenge.

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I will gladly take the bullet and live on the hedonic treadmill. Seriously how spoiled is someone who is living without struggle or conflict. Granted it could be worse but there are always challenges in life.

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Just remind yourself that there was a literal global pandemic not that long ago and being mildly inconvenienced by wearing a simple mask caused these people to lose their fucking minds as though every single one of their freedoms was being stripped away.

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That was the genius in JoJo Rabbit—showing just how absolutely pathetic and weak fascists are.

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Yeah, the joke is that he just assumes living a comfortable life without struggle equals falling down the consoomer rabbit hole and blowing your dopamine stores on watching porn the whole day or something, and not that you could use it for any number of fulfilling activities.

I’d take the boring, comfy life any time, and when I want something challenging to do, I pick learning to play the violin over going out and starting a race war, thank you very much.

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exactly. I never understood folks who had trouble with retirement to. I can garden, or read, or walk, or volunteer, or just an infinite number of things.

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haha yeah enough of you

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Dutch level

Yeah The Netherlands sucks a lot of if you only listen to the racist right. (A similar thing would happen if you were to listen to the poor Dutch minorities/disabled people/immigrants etc and took that as the whole of the Dutch experience (which is to say we still have room for improvement, and some people have it a lot better than others)).

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There’s a difference in having a personality that gets easily bored of luxury and believing conflict is what inherently gives life a meaning. Maus puts it: “Suffering doesn’t make people better, it just makes them suffer”

If someone’s life is so damn easy and hedonistic they’re actually getting bored of it, there are good ways and bad ways of introducing adversity and getting out of your comfort zone. The negation of being a slave to the hedonic treadmill[1] is not an eternal war for domination.

1: A strange figure of speech, who the hell thinks treadmills are hedonistic?

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“I moved to a place to be surrounded by white people, and decided I didn’t like white people because those white people weren’t hostile enough nor did they have enough of a desire to conquer other people. This made me realize white people are weak, so now I’m disappointed in them. But actually it’s because the white people in that area came from inferior nations 🤡.”

That’s the premise of the article to save you from having to read absolute horse shit. That guy is a waste of atoms.

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I would summarize as, “I learned that just being born white doesn’t make you superior to others…” yes yes yes yes “…because there are white people who suck, too.” Oh no.

It’s like asking someone what “4+4” is and then they write out this long algorithm inexplicably including division and multiplication and some functions for some reason, and at the end they come up with 9. It took you so long to get so close, but in the end you still completely fucked it up.

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Basically he’s like the dudes who left Twitter for Gab or Truth Social and found it boring because there weren’t any libs to own.

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At first I wondered why a post about a man disavowing white supremacy wasn’t NSFW; but it’s because he didn’t get any better? He’s not a white supremacist because white supremacy is too inclusive and not racist enough against the shittier whites? He concluded that an ENTIRE GEOGRAPHICAL REGION was genetic backwash before he considered self-reflection?

It is completely insane what the substack/X combo is doing to young men. It’s like CTE but concentrated entirely on the part of your brain that lets you tolerate other races.

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Well yeah, because he’s the sort of person who becomes a white supremacist. They’re not smart people, they’re miserable people looking for something to blame for their own failures. So yeah of course he decided to blame midwesterners for being the catholic Germans instead of the Protestant Germans

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Also this comment from the motte is definitely ethnonationalist, no?

Agreed, though, that a lot of white Americans are kind of like hobbits, in their lack of antibodies against general blank slatism, outgroup preferences, and progressive American culture. They might make a stink face at the young white male cosmopolitan who arrives in town for an extended study abroad program, but will root for outsiders and people that hate them when it comes to college football/basketball, the NFL, the NBA. Quokka would be the rationalist sphere term of art, here. “Cucks” might even apply. Relatedly, this has been touched upon in the Norf FC series of memes with regard to whites on the other side of the pond.

It’s the Motte special. Comments that are structurally culture critiques, but functionally a Turner Diaries summary.

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The way tha “cuck” has been elevated to a genuine category in their armchair social science is such a warm breeze of insanity whenever I come across it

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Internet weirdo to salt-of-the-earth Midwesterners: at least you’re all not cucks!

SotEMW: cucks?

IW: you know, like that porn where a white dude watches black dudes fuck his wife!

SotEMW: <racks shotgun slide> get the hell away from my daughter

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* the cuckchair social sciences

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I dont know if I’m not as smart as I thought, or not as knowledgeable in pseudoscience as I thought because this just reads to me like someone who sniffs their own farts stroking their ego because they shit out a comment they think is incredibly meaningful.

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He’s (very wordly) paraphrasing the common esoteric right wing belif that anti-racism is a belief only truly held by whites, and that it is simultaneously the contemporary western white’s only mistake.

A cousin from the same parent thread goes a step further and claims that whites…

I think he seems to have realized a terrible truth for a lot of WNs who are deeply used to their particular kind of persecution complex and enemy hierarchy, which is that much of the state of the modern west is a direct product of the ‘white temperament’ and white population preferences, possibly on a genetic level.

…are GENETICALLY inclined to support diversity, which is a claim so fantastically racist that it might just offend everyone on Earth.

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Agreed. This person is basically just discovering he doesn’t actually like people in a general sense and he can’t use the self gaslighting notion of skin color to pretend there’s people out there he actually likes. His window of acceptable is so small he’s practically the only one who can squeeze through.

In part he can’t let go of whiteness as a label and synonym of superiority so when he finds a version of whiteness he finds subpar and unworthy by his own veiws of what it should be he compares that version of whiteness to… (checks notes) the Ming dynasty Chinese. He starts describing everything in what has been trained into him as language describing the inferior.

All he ever really wanted was to be openly horrible to everyone with little to no consequences… Because kindness and empathy is just not something he understands. If it doesn’t serve him directly it’s trash. It’s easy to pretend to an in-group when you just shout the same nonsense and get rewarded with pats on the back for playing along, but that doesn’t translate to people legitimately caring about you. It’s not actual empathy and human connection. It’s just reciprocity. The minute you stop playing tit-for-tat in a reciprocity based movement for any reason you get abandoned. This guy is so far along that pipeline that he can’t leave and can’t distinguish the human in anyone. It’s sad.

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What the fuck is “slatism”? That’s not a word, innit?

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“blank slatism”, here used to mean those fools that don’t think race science is true

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I think it should be hyphenated, “blank-slatism” but I can’t be bothered to figure out what meaning the term is supposed to convey.

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I made it embarrassingly far into this article, but it was “five figure wagecuck hell” that for some reason made me stop and think, why am I still reading this garbage?

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Welcome to the abyss! Here’s your hazmat suit with a leak! It sucks here!

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Identical experience. Goddamnit kid just get drunk and write a bad poem

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I made it a lot farther before I just couldn’t anymore. I was kinda hoping for some kind of real self-reflection or ability to further understand the mindset of people like him but it’s just the same “sigma grindset” bullshit they always spout.

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TL;DR: “I’m no longer a white nationalist because a lot of white people are cucked. Now my new identity is with sufficiently pilled white people. This is much more pragmatic. Also I would totally have a cool black friend if any actually existed which means I’m totally not racist.”

Also: did anyone else feel a chill reading about a literal nazi talking about how society accepts him now? America used to despise nazis and now they feel like they can walk around openly. It’s terrifying.

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I reacted to that too, “no need to be an overt WN now that society accepts us!” but I think that’s partly bravado.

For example, he loves Twitter now but Elon still hasn’t given his account back…

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Yes, that stuck with me very much. It’s one thing to hear fellow leftists talk about how Trump shifted the Overton window. It’s a whole different thing to hear that a Nazi fully feels the effects of it having truly shifted.

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AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

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