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Microsoft’s Windows and foreign database programs also sidelined as Beijing favours Chinese hardware and software

Among the 18 approved processors were chips from Huawei and state-backed group Phytium. Both are on Washington’s export blacklist. Chinese processor makers are using a mixture of chip architectures including Intel’s x86, Arm and homegrown ones, while operating systems are derived from open-source Linux software.

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No!!! You aren’t allowed to do that! Only America is allowed to be protectionist 😠 😠 😠

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Do you have any idea how protectionist China has been for the past several decades? Nothing the US has done comes even close to their long standing policies.

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They ban certain media properties and cultural imports, but they’ve been open for business to developers and industry my entire life. This recent wave is way different. This is an actual industrial supply-side commodity that is used in production, not a controversial movie.

Something new has been happening since America launched the chip tradewar and the performative attacks against Xinjiang province.

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In all likelihood, they’ve been open for business to make it easier to nab intellectual property from the rightful owners. China has probably just decided they’ve learned enough to make their own “homegrown” products, and can safely kick all the western businesses out of the market.

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What controversial movie are we talking?

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Except in many cases you cannot sell directly in China, but you need to “partner up” with a Chinese corporation in order to sell there (aka technology transfer). You then need the Chinese government approval and possibly a CCP person on the board

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It’s honestly surprising they ever did.

You’d figure they’d go as far as banning them for the whole country to give their own companies the market.

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Do they really have good enough chips? I thought this stuff was hard to do.

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That probably explain why they’re investing so much in RISC-V.

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Are the chips easier to make?

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Substantially. CISC vs RISC is night and day. Keeping x86 for so long was a mistake, but one that generated billions in value for shareholders.

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New ARM chip from Loongson is supposedly competitive with Zen 3 (launched November 2020).

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you dont need much to run most government level computers, and I say this knowing what lind of conputers in general some of the U.S offices were running. China already has their own build of linux for government computers, and deceloping a basic cpu for governmental office purposes wouldnt be too difficult in thr grand scheme of things.

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Some of these systems were still running COBOL-coded programs and failed due to Corona overload. US asked rerired elderly devs to come and fix it because no one learnt that shit for years. That’s what describes most tech in public services and governments, worldwide.

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They already have their own x86 chips. They’re a few generations behind the cutting edge. They’ve been catching up fast which is why the US and EU have been shitting their pants trying to wage cold war. All of a sudden ramping up the China bad narrative out of left field when not long ago they were trying to work with China rather than against them…

Much of the manufacturing difficulty we hear about with western industry is achieving highest yields possible of the most powerful chips to please ravenous shareholders demanding flawless profit gains every quarter. Capitalism problems in other words. It’s much different when your goal is merely to produce computers for government office use. You can still use old computers for the majority of computing needs.

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