Volunteer firefighter protects other people’s houses because they like living in a town with houses.
Of course. Every single country acts out of self-interest 100% of the time. That’s how countries work.
I think the reason for the post is to point out that continuing the funding of the war in Ukraine only serves to kill more ukrainians and the only benefit is Western foreign policy goals.
I am just going to the natural result of what he is saying and the material facts on the ground.
It doesn’t only serve to kill Ukrainians and only to benefit Western foreign policy goals. It also serves to keep Ukraine independent from Russia, which is saving Ukrainians and Ukrainian culture from oppression and genocide.
The Ukrainians are happy to be receiving Western support. They’re not mindless puppets, they’re choosing to continue to resist Russian invasion. They have their reasons for not wanting to be ruled by Putin.
The issue is that Ukraine cant win and the West knows it.
They’re not mindless puppets, they’re choosing to continue to resist Russian invasion.
What percent of their army is conscripted?
Oh really, I thought this was out of the goodness of our hearts. Mind blown.
In fairness, this was always the case. But if you said this, back in 2022, NPCs who could not even find Ukraine on a map weeks prior, would call you a “Putin puppet.” Regardless of valid points or reasoning.
Not the first time the USA has done this, the war on Iraq, twice, or the decades long Operation Condor, just name some examples.
How west we talking about? Europe has an existential self-interest, USA has a capitalist military industry profit self-interest. Even going further to the west, China’s involvement serves self-interest.
europe should have absolutely zero self interest in sabotaging its own economy but it’s doing it anyway… the current batch of ghouls leading european countries should have no self interest in boosting the popularity of nazis at their own expense, but they’re doing it anyway…
There’s also a ratio of non-nazi civilians which are on the razing path of the bigger fascist country. Europe doesn’t seem to have alternative avenues than to attempt to block it at all costs.
yes, i know that’s the accepted wisdom but i’m not seeing it. and if that were a real fear, then europe has just played itself, because russia is only going to be more likely to attack now that europe has shown itself to be a paper tiger… maybe it would’ve been better to say an absolute no to the idea of ukraine joining nato in 2008 or so. maybe there would still be a ukraine.
Holy shit!
