Server indexes of places for newcomers to join can be instrumental for Fediverse adoption. However, sudden rule changes can leave some admins feeling pressure to change policies in order to remain listed.

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No way! Little dictators exercising the power they have. But it is their platform, they can do what they want right?

This is probably the biggest threat to the fediverse.

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34 points

Threads is the biggest threat to the Fediverse.

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3 points

Lets ruin it so they can’t!

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18 points

Defederating from Meta won’t ruin it, it’ll protect it.

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I am not in favor of transitive property defederation either but Meta will make similar demands if they are allowed to be an influencer in the fedi as well. I’d rather that everyone just decides to defederate threads independently

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The above is the core strength of the fediverse. Tinpot despots may have an advantage in the network due to previous efforts, but they can be routed around any time they go nuts.

This is a huge, huge win over the top down shitbergs that is current corporate social media.

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1 point

I think this is true, but the fediverse (as an entity) needs to prevent too much power accumulating at one point.

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It ebbs and flows. Full decentralization would be ideal, but unrealistic. Power always consolidates, until it suddenly doesnt. Making it easy to leave when it “suddenly doesnt” is key.

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19 points

They are not threatening the fediverst though are they? Just refusing to promote certain instances for newcomers. When I signed up, i wasn’t really sure what I was signing up to but i did assume that not all instances were listed on that page that talked about them

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Little dictators that have too much prominence and visibility are the threats. If a specific start point gets too prominent a lot of users could be redirected from good instances because of the little tyrants that run such a jump on point. Granted it can be easily routes around by offering alternative entry points, but a certain amount of prominence will impact not so Tech savvy users.

And in your assumption you have shown you already understand the fediverse more than a lot of people ever will. They will just join an instance and browse /ALL.

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13 points

Create your own instance and become your own little benevolent dictator.

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While I would love for everyone to defederate from threads, strong-arming people is not the way.

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How exactly is anyone being strong armed?
A single, privately run index site (which, to be clear, I have never even visited, let alone have any affiliation with) doesn’t want to publicise certain instances.
If anything, forcing them to index instances they don’t want to would be the strong-arming.

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8 points

Yeah saying they have to list and recommend things they disagree with reeks highly of “freeze peach” principles as understood by right-wing-philosopher-clowns.

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Yup, but only when it’s something those clowns disagree with, like excluding Nazis or corporations.

Now, excluding people from protected groups, who need to be protected in the first place because of the groups the clowns endorse and defend, they’re more than happy to fight for that…

And conveniently enough anyone who disagrees with them is a traitor they don’t have to listen to, and voilà - built in shield against any criticism or the pointing out of just how massive their hypocrisy is…

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blocking threads is so stupid and antithesis to the nature of the fediverse.

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People have wildly different ideas about the nature of the fediverse. That’s the nub.

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No, you’re misunderstanding the nature of the Fediverse. The fediverse concept centers around independent servers interconnecting and communicating with each other over activitypub, not all servers everywhere, just simply independent servers (AKA there is room for defederation and bans in that model). There will be servers which choose not to or won’t be allowed to interconnect and that isn’t antithetical to the goal because the goal is having servers be able to do it. If you were told that fediverse means all activitypub servers interconnect they were either misunderstanding or lying.

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The nature of the fediverse is that it’s federative/defederative. If an instance chooses to defederate because it thinks federation is a risk then they can do that. If that causes a problem for a user, the user can move to another instance which does federate.

I joined the fediverse after years of bad experiences on more typical social media sites, and specifically lemmy.blahaj.zone instance because the admins are very good at weeding out transphobia. If they federated with Threads I would be very surprised and want them to convince me of why that was a good idea.

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12 points

So admins are pissed because one of the more powerful (because rare) indexes has a spine.

Meta promoting hate doesnt fit the fediverse, plain and simple. Maybe people just get over themselves?

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Now it is “has a spine”, next time they arbitrairly decide to make up rules it won’t be cool because they won’t align with your worldview

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Even though I hate Meta, I can totally understand why admins are pissed at this change.

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