In commemoration of the upcoming Transgender Day of Visibility (TDOV), President Joe Biden issued a statement praising trans people’s contributions to society and describing actions his administration has taken to counter transphobic bullying and extremism. Additionally, many members of Biden’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) also issued their own statements affirming that community health depends on supporting trans people too.
“Transgender Americans are part of the fabric of our Nation,” Biden wrote in his statement. “Whether serving their communities or in the military, raising families or running businesses, they help America thrive. They deserve, and are entitled to, the same rights and freedoms as every other American, including the most fundamental freedom to be their true selves.”
Anyone telling you both sides same are either a bad actor or so incredibly privelleged that they can just not care about this kind of thing.
The problem isn’t that they are the same. The problem is one side is so bad that the other can do whatever they want, because “at least I’m not the other guy and first-past-the-post means you better fall in line and vote for me in November”.
Which is why it’s a shame that Biden said “trans people are disgusting and we really should execute all of them, but we won’t because it’s unconstitutional”
Oh wait, what? He didn’t say that? He made the greatest show of public support a President has ever made? Huh, curious. Anyway, let’s talk more about how bad Joe Biden is.
Which is why it’s a shame that Biden said “trans people are disgusting and we really should execute all of them, but we won’t because it’s unconstitutional”
Oh wait, what? He didn’t say that? He made the greatest show of public support a President has ever made? Huh, curious. Anyway, let’s talk more about how bad Joe Biden is.
he’s got a long history of fucking over lgbt and switched sides just to get the votes of the young and people who don’t pay attention; he’s 2-faced at best
i like it when straight people overcompensate to try to make up for all thoroughly fucked up things they did to lgbt in the past; problem is biden did SO MUCH fucked up things to so many lgbt that he could keep keep trying to overcompensate for the rest of his life and still not even budge the karma scale.
still, though, it’s nice to see the effort and it would carry a lot more weight if he didn’t benefit from trying to do so during election season.
problem is biden did SO MUCH fucked up things to so many lgbt that he could keep keep trying to overcompensate for the rest of his life and still not even budge the karma scale.
What did he do?
it takes less than 30 seconds on google to find biden’s record, so i’m hoping you’re not a sealioning.
tldr: biden is a 2-faced politician that goes with whatever is popular atm. this meant that he was anti-lgbt when it was okay and is now suddenly pro-lgbt since that it’ll get him votes nowadays.
voted against gays in the military
affirmed his stance on anti-gay marriage in 2006
supported banning lgbt in federal service like executive order 10450
They are not the same but they are almost the same. Identical on most important issues such as genocide, police power, prisons, wealth inequality,etc.
They just pick controversial topics that they know will divide people, so they can make us vote for them so the other side won’t win, while both couldn’t care less about anything but money in their pockets.
You know, usually when I read “both sides are the same”, it’s a blue conservative like you trying to make people critical of the Democratic party seem unreasonable.
Both sides are capitalist and conservative, but there are differences for sure. Dont you want more differences?
If you wanna really shut up those people bitchhing from the sidelines, the best way to do so is to put them in the game! Force them to show us how to do things since it’s so easy and they have it figured out.
Switching away from first past the post voting allows people to vote for who represents them best while still counting their vote against those they dont want to win. Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.
Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.
Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Republicans LOVE first past the post voting. Just sbsolutely adore it. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans want?
So what’s the hold up blue states?
Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.
HOW was this downvoted.
every time I argue that we should vote third party to move the Democratic party left, people tell me that instead we should focus on electoral/voting reform. And then someone suggests it and gets downvotes.
it’s almost as if people don’t really care 🤔
Voting 3rd part has the opposite effect. Republicans voted 3rd part in 92 to shift policy and lost the presidency for 8 years, and the appointment of 2 lifetime supreme court justices.
I get why people are so freaked out about voting third party, especially when mass political actions like voting don’t seem to handle nuance well. So advocating a simple slogan like “vote third party” might be irresponsible, but people seem almost irrationally afraid of third party voting in contexts where it should be entirely rational to vote third party.
For example, in a swing state it’s clearly useful to vote for the Lesser Evil (in recent U.S. elections that would be the Democrats, of course). But in states where there is a supermajority and there is almost no chance the state will flip, for example California which will certainly go to the Democrats or Arkansas which will go Republican, voting third party becomes helpful because it might enable the third party to receive federal funding.
There are various objections I have considered to this strategy, the one I think that comes up immediately is that if you vote third party it takes a vote that might otherwise contribute to changing the status of a state as stronghold or swing state, basically those margins matter and you should always be pushing the margin even if not likely to make a difference (just on the slim chance it does make a difference).
In that instance I think it’s just a matter of weighing the good: does the good from voting for the third party justify the slight risk of not being part of an unexpected shift in votes? This is clearly contextual, see recent upsets in Georgia (who went to Biden in 2020) and Pennsylvania (who went to Trump in 2016). I think the responsibility is on the voter to research their state demographics and those probabilities and make a decision. If you want to do less work, sure, just vote for the Lesser Evil.
What I don’t understand is the kind of blind dogmatism that refuses to acknowledge that there even could be reasons to vote third party, and that doing so is wrong a priori.
Because you’re supposed to follow the script of pretending that democrats are saving democracy and that you should vote blue even if poo. The reality is that democrats are only interested in saving the current power structure, we already don’t have a democracy, both parties do in fact serve the rich first and foremost, and guaranteeing your vote no matter what will not cause the democrats to change their policies. These should be obvious to anyone paying any attention. I wonder if these people lived through the Bush Jr years where democrats were screaming about how bad he was (correctly so), but after he was out of office they continued many of his policies (corporate bailouts, his wars, maintained tax cuts for the rich, etc) and worked to rehabilitate that war criminal’s image.
Yes, republicans are worse, but democrats use that to their advantage to never significantly improve things. It’s the classic good cop, bad cop routine. They’re still cops and they’re both on the same team working against you.
both sides same
Once side does some weak tea pandering in a Facebook post while the other disenfranchises 10,000 newly registered voters to rig a Constitutional Amendment vote.
The solution, as always, is to vote harder. And if we catch you showing disappoint while on your way to the election booth, we reserve the right to blame you for our clown car of corporate flak losers falling flat in the latest round of gerrymandered and voter caged elections.
Creating a national day of visibility == pandering on Facebook. It’s an official act and statement by the president of the United States that acknowledges and shines a light on the struggle of what is currently one of our most oppressed and murdered social groups.
These people really just can’t let someone say “hey maybe Joe Biden is obviously the better option to vote for.” It just really can’t be left alone without someone making a comment like the one I’m replying to right now. I see it in every thread
These people really just can’t let someone say “hey maybe Joe Biden is obviously the better option to vote for.” It just really can’t be left alone without someone making a comment like the one I’m replying to right now. I see it in every thread
that’s because you’re either missing or dismissing the context of biden’s 2-faced behavior. he was one of the worst anti-lgbt polictians we’ve ever had in the modern era and it’s only recently that he’s switched sides once it became clear that screwing over lgbt wasn’t popular anymore just to get votes.
The solution, as always, is to vote harder.
Yes. That’s how democracy works.
Bad actors usually work for the government and if there’s anything the government is pressuring you to do is not voting for parties that aren’t part of the government (red or blue). If there’s anyone privileged here i would point my finger at americans, people getting bombed in gaza or in the middle east don’t even get to decide if they can live the day or not. Let’s not play the politicians game anyway, turning people against each others is one of their oldest trick in the book. If there’s anyone actually privileged in this world it’s them
I’m a trans person and I don’t appreciate my identity being used to justify voting for someone who literally TODAY sent more weapons to Israel to bomb Palestinians with.
I’m a trans person and condemn anyone who won’t vote to stop a fascist dictator that wants me dead from obtaining the nuclear codes
When can we start voting for someone good instead of merely less bad? How do we get to that point?
I’m a trans person and condemn anyone who won’t vote to stop a fascist dictator that wants me dead from obtaining the nuclear codes
i’ve been trying to find someone who’s life had been impacted by biden’s support of don’t-ask-don’t-tell; defense-of-marriage-act; executive-order-10450; ice; straight-marriage-only-in-2006 to ask if they still support him; but it seems that only the young who are ignorant of his past; those who “avoid politics”; and those that were never affected universally support him.
if you’re not one of these three groups; i’d like to hear your thoughts on why he switched to pro-lgbt: do you think it’s because it was more politically advantageous of him? did he hate lgbt in the past because it acceptable and, if so, if it were still acceptable would he continue to hate lgbt?
i ask because my life has been thoroughly fucked by each one of these policies and it took A LOT of effort to rebuild my life so it’s obvious that i wouldn’t support him; but i’m wondering if there’s anyone else out there whose life has also been thoroughly fucked by these policies, but still support him somehow.
condemn anyone who won’t vote to stop a fascist dictator
Finally standing up to Benjamin Netanyahu and all those Americans who keep voting for him
Yeah you’re cool with voting in the fascist killing Palestinians, and shitting on people for caring about genocide. Very cool.
I think it’s sad that your idea can’t stand on its own, and that you have to say you’re trans to not get down voted.
Like the privileged Palestinians getting genocided by your centrist idol biden? This is the same biden who said that we need the republican party, by the way. Interesting that someone saying such flowery words about trans people is so strong in his belief that we need a party that is intent on erasing them. You’re complaining about "both sides"ism, but biden is “both sides” the candidate.
Good that the genocide commited on Palestinians is used universally to bash whoever we dont like.
Or derail any conversation.
Truly a blessing. Sorry I meant disgusting.
Seriously, you know it’s a blessing because even as the tide has started to turn and more politicians are speaking out against it…well, now it’s too late so they’re still terrible and all the same.
You know what’s really disgusting? Dismissing genocide. You can’t stand on a platform of morality when you ignore great evils in favor of flowery words. If you don’t want your precious candidate to be bashed for supporting genocide, here’s a brilliant idea: stop supporting genocide.
Here is you agreeing with a comment that includes the quote “How are they different from republicans? How is biden different than trump?” just yesterday
https://kolektiva.social/users/bigMouthCommie/statuses/112181807694426359
strictly, they are asking how they are different, not stating that they are the same.
You yourself do that, constantly. But such lies are your kind’s bread and butter.
With the benefit of the doubt, this statement is just incredibly ignorant. More likely it’s a straight-up lie though
I see it plenty of times from Republicans. They either love trump or are saying that both sides are equally corrupted (typically when trump does something indefensible)
Is this your first day on Lemmy? Have you ever been on a lefty subreddit in your life?
All of the Fox News crowd are getting bent out of shape because it falls on the same day as Easter this year…can’t make this up.
Why are we celebrating men with two X chromosomes when we should be celebrating a man who was born to a virgin mother? He obviously wasn’t lgbt, he just convinced a bunch of men to ditch their wives and live in a traveling commune with him and no women.
But for real, they’re the ones whose day’s date changes.
I am a lover of both words and deeds. This issue needs a lot of bad laws rolled back, but it also needs to have this kind of thing being said at every level of society.
Just tiresome to read “Joe Biden becomes first president to wave a trans flag from the stairs of Air Force One” and then turn the page and read “Florida legislature passes the ‘Install Land Mines In Women’s Restrooms Act’ and funds it to the tune of $40M”
It’s more than tiresome, it’s a fucking holocaust in motion. I’m just taking the Ws where I can.
Religous fundamentalists setting the stage to seize control of the nation and institute a authoritarian government to carry out a genocide?
Sounds serious!
So when are democrats dropping gun control considering this imminent threat?
Armed queers bash back.
That word is being abused lately. Trans people aren’t being packed into trains and sent to gas chambers.
What’s happening to them isn’t ok and laws need to protect their rights like everyone elses, make no mistake about it but conflating it with the Holocaust, doesn’t help the victims make progress. We need to use accurate language to combat the inflammatory language being used by the bigots trying to limit Trans rights IMO.
Absolutely, but that’s not something the president has powers over. We need Congress to pass a law that allows the federal government to crack down hard on states doing this. And we need a Congress to bitch slap the Supreme Court back into actually following the Constitution and not being a right wing mouthpiece.
Messaging and signaling are both important. We just have to be wary of when people are disingenuous. There’s value in introducing progressive legislation like how Sanders and AOC do even if it isn’t going to pass, just like there’s value here in affirming that trans people are people who matter.
If there was a Joe Biden bingo card, “fabric of our nation” would be on it.
“part of the fabric” not “the fabric”
I’m an ally, but at the end of the day let’s not over conflate statements. It doesn’t serve anyone a favor.
Over stating gives poor intentioned people room and also means that supporters relent.
“The fabric” should never apply to any group tbh.
