Ok, I can get sort of disagreeing the wildfires are from climate change - that’s a couple of logical steps you have to make. But “It’s not causing anyone to cough” is plainly ludicrous. It was making me cough when I went outside.

“It doesn’t smell bad”? Maybe they have COVID and lost their sense of smell altogether? It certainly smelled bad to me. And if you thought it smelled great - wow. I just don’t ever want to be around you if you like those sorts of smells. I can’t see it actually working with anyone who’s ever been in wildfire smoke before - like you don’t need science or education or anything to notice if it makes you cough, or tell something doesn’t smell great.

32 points

Let’s be real. A lot of these people don’t actually believe anything that comes out of their mouth, but if they think it’ll trigger a liberal they’re down with it.

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I especially don’t get this “dying to trigger the libs”. Interesting tactic I have to say. I am not compelled to try and trigger anyone - are they all trolls now or something? I have more interesting things to do than to cut off my nose to piss someone else off.

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I think there is a lot of pride to be conservative coming into play here. Hard to explain, but I sometimes see this in my family. They proudly present their ignorance to show off their conservativism, hold it in front of them like a banner. When I inquire a bit deeper their views are often a bit more reasonable, it just feels like average boomers wanting to be cool by flaunting their ignorance, as weird as this sounds.

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Yeah it feels like most right wing people are more progressive than they think.

I’m not from the U.S. but everytime I talk with a conservative we agree on a lot of things once they stop talking with slogans

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Well yeah, they wouldn’t want to be a stupid science bitch.

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The documentary Behind the Curve explores this idea a bit. It follows die hard flat earthers around their daily lives to get to know them a bit more.

There’s a running theme throughout the movie that these people weren’t very happy with their lives prior to becoming flat earthers. Joining the “movement” gave them instant friends and a sense of direction. There’s subtle hints now and again that most don’t actually believe the Earth is flat, but they feel like “coming out” would ruin their reputation with their new community.

I get the sense that a lot of right wingers feel the same.

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and the reason we don’t hear much about flat earth any more is because most of them moved on… to QAnon.

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1 point

“Hey look I proved the Earth was round with a relatively long lage, a semi-proffessional camera and a jury rigged gimbal.”

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2 points

The Right uses fear and intimidation to keep their base in line. They brainwash their children into believing as they do that an absolute authority exists and someone will tell them who that is and that to succeed in life all they have to do is follow a proscription.

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People I work with are infinitely suspicious of the wildfires. They say shit like, “Hmm, isn’t it odd they all started around the same time?”

Yes, Jeffrey, that’s how wildfires work. Entire biomes burn to the ground if the conditions are hot and dry for long enough.

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Yeah, there’s a “Trudeau started the wildfires as an excuse for carbon taxes” narrative that is insanely popular among the Canadian right wing.

I’ve even seen some “15 Minute Cities” theorists claiming the fires are being lit in order to “drive people into the liberal cities so the government can control them”.

It’s just entirely divorced from reality.

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20 points

They are basically living out “Don’t Look Up”.

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3 points

Think of all the jobs the wildfires will create!

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16 points

You don’t need a high level of education to know you shouldn’t inject bleach into your system to kill COVID-19, and yet people died listening to Trump’s suggestion.

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“people died listening to Trump’s suggestion” is undoubtedly true, but are there any documented cases of someone actually injecting bleach, much less that leading to their death?

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I can’t find the article anymore because it was back in 2020 when I read it but a woman claimed her father injested bleach after seeing Trump’s press conference and died from it. The only articles I find now are upticks in poisonings. Maybe it was debunked since then?

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2020/04/trumps-disinfectant-injection-claim-has-actually-caused-people-to-poison-themselves/

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Injecting, don’t think so. But ERs in the states that villify any lifestyle other than theirs saw a drastic uptick people drinking bleach. Also never forget Ivermectin.

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15 points

I kind of gave up trying to convince my family that this isn’t healthy, especially my high risk family members. I don’t get why they just don’t seem to care, especially the ones with major health problems.

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9 points

Same … it’s clear that attempting to convince my own family is just as effective as speaking to a charcuterie board. Want to breathe the smoke? Fine, go ham. I’m fresh out of pity for the science deniers.

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But that’s the thing, the people in my family refusing to take precautions have health issues and use science when it keeps them alive! Like, which is it???

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4 points

I’m 38 with good breathing but I have multiple sclerosis. Wildfires make it so I’m unable to move my legs or do much of anything. It’s real and some people are idiots.

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I effectively grew out of my mild asthma when I was younger (especially as I stopped being around cigarette smoke), so I had a bit of a panic when I had symptoms for the first time in 10 years last Tuesday before I learned why it looked like a doom map outside…

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I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand that breathing particulate matter into your lungs isn’t a good thing… A child should be able to understand this. My 10 and 12 year old INSTINCTIVELY understood this… they pulled their shirts up over their nose on their own when we woke up and went outside on the first bad day.

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