6 points

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Squatters have taken over a pub in London leased by Gordon Ramsay that is up for sale with a guide price of £13m.

A group of at least six people locked themselves inside the Grade II-listed York and Albany hotel and gastropub, next to Regent’s Park, boarding up the windows and putting up a “legal warning” defending their takeover, the Sun reported.

In photographs taken before the windows were further boarded up, a person could be seen sleeping on a sofa in the bar, surrounded by litter.

On Saturday morning, two masked people wearing black tracksuits and carrying backpacks and carrier bags exited the property, running away from reporters before they could be approached for comment.

Ramsay called the police on Wednesday but was unable to have the people removed, it is understood.

The Kitchen Nightmares host unsuccessfully attempted to free himself from the lease in a legal battle at the high court in 2015.


The original article contains 513 words, the summary contains 155 words. Saved 70%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

permalink
report
reply
48 points

permalink
report
reply
14 points

permalink
report
reply
4 points

I have no idea what this image is about, but it strikes me as hilarious

permalink
report
parent
reply
45 points
*

The occupation of a person’s non-residential property without their permission is not a crime in England

slowblink.gif

edit: TIL! Thanks for reminding me that if something seems far out, chances are that my understanding just hasn’t caught up.

permalink
report
reply
26 points

These are old laws, and maybe good ones depending on perspective. My understanding is that property should be used if abandoned.

permalink
report
parent
reply
40 points
*

Probably it’s civil law/tort law, not criminal law. Like, someone can’t go to jail for it, but can be sued over it.

Crimes are only violations of criminal law.

googles

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespass_in_English_law

Trespass in English law is an area of tort law broadly divided into three groups: trespass to the person, trespass to goods, and trespass to land.

Sounds like that might be the case.

Trespass in English (and Welsh) law is mostly a civil tort rather than a criminal offence. The circumstances in which it is a criminal offence are usually trespass on educational premises, railway property, protected sites, etc.[failed verification]

Not the case here in the States:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trespass_to_land

United States

In most states, a criminal trespass to land is defined by statute and constitutes a misdemeanor. In some states, it may be a felony under certain circumstances (e.g., trespassing on a research facility or school property). Remedies between private parties for trespass may include an injunction or money damages.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

According to government guidance, squatters can apply to become the registered owners of a property if they have occupied it continuously for 10 years, acted as owners for the whole of that time and had not previously been given permission to live there by the owner.

Interesting loophole. Can you prove the squatters were not given verbal permission by the owner?

Also, the fact that a group of people can help themselves to a property that is vacant for good reason and have legal protection is kinda bullshit.

permalink
report
reply
38 points

I’d say its a lot less bullshit than having empty spaces while people are homeless.

permalink
report
parent
reply
5 points

It’s a restaurant, not exactly set up for accommodation.

permalink
report
parent
reply
15 points

You’re right of course, but the general point stands. Why can they squat in there if its used at all and not just collecting dust?

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

Interesting. The title says hotel

permalink
report
parent
reply
27 points

Also, the fact that a group of people can help themselves to a property that is vacant for good reason and have legal protection is kinda bullshit.

If you have someone living on your property for 10 years without you knowing, that’s your fault. Clearly their presence isn’t that big of a deal.

permalink
report
parent
reply
18 points

They have legal protection well before ten years though, this website outlines it.

https://www.complete-ltd.com/landlord-library-squatters-rights/

If the squatter has been in the property for more than 28 days or is in a commercial property, the landlord will need to file a claim for possession in court. This is a more complex process and can take several months to complete.

It sounds like an absolute nightmare if you’re renovating or between tenancies with a commercial property.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points

That honestly aligns more with what I’ve heard in the past.

I thought the US had a similar set up, but I may be wrong.

I’m curious what the rationale is given for these laws. Is it just a remnant of squatter’s rights, when people could just up and stay in truly abandoned locations until they practically owned it?

permalink
report
parent
reply

World News

!world@lemmy.world

Create post

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

  • Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:

    • Post news articles only
    • Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
    • Title must match the article headline
    • Not United States Internal News
    • Recent (Past 30 Days)
    • Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
  • Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think “Is this fair use?”, it probably isn’t. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.

  • Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.

  • Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.

  • Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19

  • Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

  • Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.

  • Rule 7: We didn’t USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you’re posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

Community stats

  • 11K

    Monthly active users

  • 17K

    Posts

  • 284K

    Comments