210 points

Wait, If Windows is 96.21% and Linux is 1.96%, then MacOS is 1.83%?

Wouldn’t that make Linux 2nd place?

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Before opening the comments, I spent several seconds contemplating if I should mention this, or if people would think I was some pedantic nerd dickhead and downvote me to hell. Glad someone else already covered this.

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We still think you’re a pedantic need dickhead, but we upvote you for that!

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30 points

Pedantic / thread about Linux. You’re safe, cuz.

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11 points

Yeah, I contemplated mentioning it too, knowing I might come off as pedantic, but figured what the hell. Others must have noticed too, right?

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8 points

Dude you are β€œroot”, you can do anything here! So don’t waste time thinking next time, just (su)do!

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1 point

su root

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5 points

lol, this is the only reason I came in here.

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2 points

It’s OK this was cause OP has the permissions for it

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32 points

I actually love the irony of this meme, as that’s exactly what happened haha

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3 points

This is a post from the future, after MacOS temporarily jumps to a whopping 2% after it gets its yearly single port of a 5 year AAA old game.

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159 points

It’s actually second now.

Linux now has more steam users than MacOS

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39 points

Which, as an ex MacOS user, is a mindboggling fact it took this long.

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11 points

I guess people just trying to do things with what they have. I had a friend who plays LoL on a Mac. She also used Steam on it but there were very few games.

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3 points

I was in that camp as well. Personally, if gaming got better on Mac I’d go back in a heartbeat. If you have a specific title you like that’s support it’s really nice, but anything else is a layer of compromises to get things up and running :/

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7 points

Aren’t modern Macs literally not able to run games due to them being arm?

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20 points

ARM isn’t the problem. Some games have native ARM ports, and x86 games can be run by Rosetta. It’s not as fast as native, but broadly comparable with the performance of the previous gen Intel chips they replaced.

A bigger problem on macOS is that they dropped support for 32-bit software a few years ago in Catalina. Not a problem with newer games, but it decimated Mac users’ Steam libraries.

And the biggest problem is that Apple just doesn’t give a shit about gaming. Every few years, they claim they’re going to do games, but quickly forget about it. They’ve never put decent video cards in Macs, and never hesitate to throttle hardware if proper cooling would mean a larger enclosure, so AAA games typically arrive on macOS years late, when second-rate or integrated video cards can run them.

If they actually cared, they’d have their own Vulcan implementation. Instead, they’re focused on their own proprietary Metal API.

Basically, Apple and AAA game studios have been ignoring each other for decades.

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It depends, actually. You can stack translation layers to take things from x_86 -> Arm and stuff intended for Windows -> MacOS. Depending on your solution sometimes you need to use Microsoft’s x86 translation layer and some times you use Apple’s.

This takes a pretty big hit tho. And for a long time DX12 was an issue, but with Apple’s release of the GameDev porting kit (intended for developers) you could now do play those titlss through a WineBottle. Many users did this (myself included) and I think commercial products like CrossOver are able to have the same functionality. Playing D4 on my base m1 was kinda wild.

It’s honestly kinda fun if you like tinkering, but not ideal if you care about raw performance. Ultimately tho, my Linux system is just easier now, but if I get curious if I can run a game on the thinnest laptop I own I reach for my Mac.

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-3 points

What do you think mobile games run on?

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86 points

Even if it’s Steam Deck, this just goes to show that desktop Linux is totally viable; it just needs more commitment from companies

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35 points

Maybe this is the year for desktop Linux!

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20 points

Man I remember when KDE came out and us young naive kids thought β€œthis is it… It’s virtually identical to win95/98… But without the bsod”

I feel old.

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4 points

It definitely is! Now I feel silly for calling it a year early, last year.

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1 point

Windows 10 has support into next year. Personally I use Linux and Windows but I’m sticking with gaming on Windows until support runs out. I think next year will be the year of linux

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8 points

A stable ABI wouldn’t hurt either though

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4 points

… Yes, but realistically the work to make the Linux ABI β€œmore stable” can probably go to use elsewhere

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Yeah! That thing almost nobody touches because it’s literally just there to run a proprietary storefront and act as a translation layer for games is totally going to win the desktop!

Just next year!

For the last twenty-five years or so.

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1 point

commitment from companies

The biggest of big tech refuses to accept Linux as a desktop OS. They need to port their software for Linux to get people over.

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-5 points

desktop Linux is totally viable

I think this shows the opposite.

If a FREE option that claims to be more efficient/faster (but usually isn’t in real life) is less than 2% of the market, something is wrong. Very, very wrong. Since when do people turn down free stuff, unless that free item is that bad?

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5 points

Because the vast majority of computers come with Windows preinstalled, and the vast majority of users can’t be bothered to update their OS unless they’re forced, let alone reinstall something else. I’m fairly certain the numbers would be very different if there were a significant number of blank laptops on the market, let alone ones shipped with Linux.

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I’m 100% certain there would be little difference because people need an OS that can run the software that they want, and just as importantly they need to be able to actually install and use it and Linux has never even tried to make that process anything but a nightmare. And I’ll stop you right there with your various flavors of Mint or Ubuntu or Elementary or the dozens of other distros. Users don’t care about endlessly tinkering. They want something that just works. Linux doesn’t offer that.

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-24 points

Lol steam Deck is already on the edge of not being able to play new AAA console titles. There will be a few ten thousand left who will feel like there is value in buying a second.

This is the new Steam Link. They’ve probably lost millions internally.

Maybe 10 years from now if they keep pumping massive money into it but it’s certainly not even close to comedically viable.

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21 points

Valve sold out of steam decks for multiple production runs now. And other companies are now investing in handhelds after seeing the success of it. Steams intention with the Deck was to kick start the handhelds market and make SteamOS the default operating system for that form factor. I don’t know if they profit from the deck directly but i definitely have bought more games since owning one.

Not to mention that most people have a favorite game they go back to that runs on older hardware, AAA certainly makes up a very small percentage of my gameplay

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7 points

tbh most AAA game are not worth playing the last AAA game i bought was cyberpunk. i’d rather get a game with good performance, gameplay and story than one that just looks pretty and is buggy as hell

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If you try to run any new AAA title on any current handheld you’re going to have a bad time and bad battery life IMO. I think you could even extend this to modestly old gaming rigs that already struggle badly with poorly optimised new titles.

I see the Deck praised often for its emulation capabilities and indie game performance - and to be honest those aspects are appealing enough to me if I was interested in buying another portable computer.

This is the new Steam Link

Out of curiosity, what makes you think this?

I doubt this is the case as thin client gaming accessories are a very niche product, and the Deck hardware is grossly overqualified in this regard IMO

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It’s always hilarious when kids with no knowledge talk about Valve’s hardware. Like… none of it has ever been developed to make money. Steam makes so goddamn much money they’re literally just pissing around with R&D because it’s fun.

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5 points

Anything I have a challenge running at a good frame rate, I’ll just locally stream from my PC. 60fps all day long with the power of anything my PC can run. Don’t sleep on that local game streaming, super handy and sips power.

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You mean like those AAA titles the fucking Switch can’t run?

That’s literally the only thing close to competition that the Deck has, and it skullfucks it in terms of horsepower.

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@CapraObscura @EatMyDick

It has those windows portables (I am blanking on the company name) but those also have way worse battery life.

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Oh and I guess steam has also been carefully cultivating their own IP, studios, and games for the past 40 years to ensure a steady supply of the new stuff right? Right?

Because even I hear someone gushing over their switch it’s because they are playing some 4 year old game that finally made it there and it’s definitely not titles like Mario or Zelda.

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72 points

Also works for Reddit vs lemmy user count

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I like to think we are in fact happier here than on Reddit.

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72 points

Math don’t add up, Linux would be second because whatever else would only have 1.83.

Second place baby!

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But second place wasn’t looking so saucy like the medal biting guy

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