lemmygrad just lost two users.
Was it @Wisconcom@infosec.pub and @HoxhaistLib@lemmy.world?
Wei and his handler agreed to hide their communications by deleting records of their conversations and using encrypted methods of communications, officials claim in the indictment
I guess we have no clue if they actually spying or not (based if they were), but I wanna take this time to reiterate: do not put anything incriminating online, if you were under suspicion from the state for doing something like spying e2e encryption is not going to stop them from finding out
Well just the same it’s as likely that:
- His handler was a double-agent or US operative fishing them the whole time.
- He confessed to it after a slip-up or under suspicion after being questioned.
- They found out at some point, got malware sent to his phone, decypted the messages that way.
- Some combination of these.
While it certainly is possible that the US has compromised and/or is running top e2e encrypted messengers and I wouldn’t use them myself for anything that’s considered a serious threat to national security, it’s also just as likely they may have for example used metadata inference via the big brother NSA global intercept program (which actually is a number of programs) to say “hey this US military IP address sure is sending regular messages to this IP address we’ve inferred (which itself is the real breach here in China’s operations if true) to belong to Chinese intelligence via this encrypted messenger” at which point they don’t have to know message content to know something is up, deploy the malware/and|or seize the device physically and there ya go.
US going around shitting and crying itself over Chinese “societal surveillance” that they fear will and has historically allowed them to shut down American spy networks in China do the same thing but globally and not just nationally and unlike China have no protections against misuse, share the data with between 1 (UK), 7, 14, or 21 countries (eyes agreements), and oh yeah practice rendition, torture, and assassination without trial.
Navy…soldiers?
Just a reminder that no matter how much you sell yourself out to try to fit in, if you are ethnically Chinese (or Russian, or whichever ethnic group the US currently is scapegoating) you will always be the Other and the first to be targeted. Doesn’t matter if you get the passport, become a soldier or a cop, you will never be one of them.
Since they are going to get blamed for it and railroaded whether they did it or not, I hope they at least actually did get some information to China. I can’t imagine they had all that much China didn’t already know about though.
Hey, if you’re extremely lucky you may become a token for a bit like Candace Owens.
These chargea don’t get levied by NCIS without having most of the evidence first.
UCMJ court martial os actually an expensive process and billed against the budget of the offending command.
Down vote as for explaining the Navy’s judicial processes?
Literally doesn’t apply in this situation. NCIS are not street cops and they have no interest in foreign policy.
Their sole duty is to investigate crimes under the UCMJ. This is necessary as the Navy operates outside federal jurisdiction due to the nature of their work, and must be able to prosecute criminals at sea.
Lol what the fuck… there’s a lot of CCP and Russian apologist on Lemmy.
Seriously, the US gov. Is not spending resources to scapegoat someone…
China: the same country that lies about their imports/exports ratios.
China: the same country where all loans are through the government and if you are successful enough the government assumes control of your operations.
China: the same country that can’t retake Formosa because they aren’t a credible military threat.
China: the same country that destroyed its most important international port (HK) to gain nothing?
That China?
Welp, not long now