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TurboWarp looks suspiciously like Scratch

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Mod of Scratch 3 with a compiler, dark mode, addons, and more features.

https://turbowarp.org/

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Yes, on the website you just put the scratch url in and it compiles it to JavaScript

It’s basically just an improved alternative to phosphorus

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@AdrianTheFrog oh that’s pretty cool. Old popular (& well made games) could be ported to an app using that

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106 points

Babe wake up, new flathub frontend just dropped

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Your comment got me thinking… Is this a big deal, or even a small deal?

I think it’s a deal of some proportion. If someone is trying out Linux for the first time and stumbles across how Flatpaks work and starts exploring Flathub, maybe their initial impression will be good enough to consider switching. If something appears to be polished, then maybe it is.

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Actually- yeah.

Perception is reality; while hardcore nerds are willing to roll their own distributions, there’s a reason Ubuntu is damn popular. Most normal people want their computers to work, and to have an easy discoverable ecosystem.

So yeah. A Big deal

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I hope it will change software discoverability on linux for the better.

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huge deal, software discoverability is one of the worst issues in linux rn.

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The flathub website is pure UX garbage so I wouldn’t count on any improvements in discoverability. 😄

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KDE Discover? Surely looks better than whatever this is

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Just realized I’ve never used the flat hub website

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I always check if the was packaged by the developer. I tend not to trust apps packaged by someone else.

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I always check if the was packaged

the gnome app store shows the verified status of apps, im pretty sure the kde one does too

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Unfortunately the developer often doesn’t have packages or they don’t update them.

Such is the case for Zoom. I downloaded the “official” distribution but I had no way to update it so it eventually became stale and started breaking.

Also Discord. There was no official release until very recently.

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It is useful to check the manifest file, some developer list additional setup guide and options in their github readme.

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Looks nice

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Yet, we still don’t have a proper way to mirror the parts (or the entire) repository and/or have useful offline archives of flatpaks for certain cases.

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It’s not supposed to compete with actual package repos so not sure if it would benefit from something like that. The whole thing is amateur hour, amateur implementation mainly targeted at beginners and niche use cases. It fulfills a very specific need and does it well and at the end of the day that’s the Unix philosophy. So I don’t think it should try to be something it’s not.

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While I share your views about being amateur hours we’ve been seeing an increase in usage and releases on it. At this rate flatpak/flathub will become the defacto way of getting desktop software for Linux and it does solve a lot of annoyances and makes things more secure however it lacks features.

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Even if it becomes super popular it doesn’t have enough packages. Very small amount compared to distros.

The security in theory could be good but between not knowing who packed an app and the containerization rules being configured very lax by default it’s not so great in practice.

I wish one of the serious distros experimenting with immutable distros would pick it up and start using it properly.

It’s also competing with install methods like AUR or other native stuff that’s better integrated, depending on distro.

I think it’s too early to say it will become the preferred way of getting apps, all things considered.

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Can’t you just use github API? everything is hosted on github.

You can basically list all the package under the flathub org, git clone, and build them.

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… that can be said from apt repositories. But… they’re made in a way you can mirror the entire thing offline.

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