It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.

57 points

Please just nail laptops and get where they are in stock and new parts keep being released before you spread yourself too thin.

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Honestly? Yea. There’s so much potential revenue selling to businesses that they haven’t even begun tapping into yet.

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12 points

not to mention they are still way more expensive and impossible to obtain outside the us and europe. it would be nice if they showed us first if they really can support a modular product like this in the actual long term.

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2 points

My employer bought a bunch of Framework laptops for events, but is struggling to get them in a way that they can be provided as employee laptops.

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I would love to see them make modular and repairable:

  • Phones
  • Tablets
  • 2-in-1s
  • Televisions
  • Monitors
  • Cameras
  • WiFi routers
  • Printers (copier, scanner)

Those things so often end up in the dump just because one small part fails, or gets too outdated. Think about all the parts in a wifi router that work just fine, but get thrown away anyway, because the radio module doesn’t support the shiny new WiFi version.

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Average people really don’t care about newest wifi version, so I’d say routers are one of the longest living electronics in most households, unless they are rented out from your ISP who might be interested in updating it often to justify the rent.

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3 points

And if built it right it could last even longer than that, just upgrade the asics for the new standards instead of getting a whole new unit.

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1 point

ISPs buy the cheapest reasonable equipment they can. When I have had equipment killed by lightning, the ISP’s VDSL router has always been among the dead

It especially sucks that the ISP isn’t following whatever standards there are, so other VDSL modems can’t connect

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ISPs buy the cheapest reasonable equipment they can. When I have had equipment killed by lightning, the ISP’s VDSL router has always been among the dead

It especially sucks that the ISP isn’t following whatever standards there are, so other VDSL modems can’t connect

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ISPs buy the cheapest reasonable equipment they can. When I have had equipment killed by lightning, the ISP’s VDSL router has always been among the dead

It especially sucks that the ISP isn’t following whatever standards there are, so other VDSL modems can’t connect

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16 points

Printers. God that market sucks right now. I had to break down and get one recently and just feel dirty. I know I’m fucked when its eol

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5 points

Brother laser printer

The only maintenance it needs is scraping the layers of dust off it occasionally 😂

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2 points

Music players (though I’ve preordered a Tangara, so hopefully that will be covered).

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I as far as I know the best OpenWRT AP’s / Routers you can buy right now is the Banana Pi R64, R3, R4(Still in development). Open source firmware with a long support life of updates and security patches and a nice metal casing.

I say as far as I know because I have not bought one yet as I don’t have the funds for that right now. It is my next AP replacement though.

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I hope not phones. Fairphone has the repairable market, and that would take away from Framework as well as Framework taking away from Fairphone, making both weaker.

Maybe tablets would make sense, if you could reuse components from the laptops.

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8 points

Fairphone has the repairable market

In Europe.

Framework sells their products in more markets, including North America, which adds another 600 million potential customers.

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1 point

This says you have been able to buy a Fairphone in the US since July last year, unless I’ve misunderstood?

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7 points

Options and competition are good things for consumers. Not sure why you would be against that.

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4 points

When you have a small market niche, competition can kill both companies. I’m not worried about options, I’m worried that soon both companies won’t exist.

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2 points

I think the only way it makes sense for Framework to get into the phone market is to follow the footsteps of Pine64 trying to create Linux phones. There’s no point making a phone at an inherently higher cost to make it more durable and repairable with a “closed SDK” SoC that has a fixed EoL date. I made a more detailed comment about this in the main thread.

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33 points

After five years building laptops, what might Framework add to the portfolio? Patel won’t say — I only get the barest hints, no matter how many different ways I ask.

Thanks for the nothing burger?

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14 points

Do electric cars next. No AI bullshit. Just modular, repairable, customizable vehicles.

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65 points

Their 18M investment is missing a few zeroes to do that.

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Well maybe they need a…

000 18M investment!

Jk, how about electric bikes then?

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25 points

Already a crowded and fairly repairable market.

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13 points

Tablet?

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I would think they’d do a phone first given the market for phones is way bigger.

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4 points

Isn’t that basically what Fairphone is?

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12 points

It’s very similar but with a different philosophy. Fairphone is about sustainability and being ethical. Framework is about repairability and upgradability(which the fairphone isn’t).

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3 points

In my opinion Fairphone makes dodgy decisions, like removing a headphone jack and supplementing that with their own Fairbuds

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2 points

They announced a partnership with Cooler Master, which to me suggests that that is not the case.

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1 point

They already work with Cooler Master. I believe they designed the cooling for the laptops and this case.. And why would Cooler Master work on a tablet and not a phone, phones need cooling to lol?

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