I’ve watched some here and there, but having to try to catch them when they stream has put me too much in the mind of old tv and catching shows when they air. Watching the recording afterward is maybe good for some white noise, but it’s clearly not the intended experience I think.

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Lots of people watch live sports, reality TV, talk shows. It’s just an extension of that genre depending on what type of streamer you’re in to.

Lots of people don’t care for that stuff, sounds like you’re in the second group.

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Lots of people watch live sports, reality TV, talk shows.

Oh, maybe that explains why I don’t like streamers. I don’t like any of those things.

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I like some sports, but can’t stand game streamers. Athletes train for years to become the best in their sport/position/etc, streamers are usually mediocre at the games at best. I rather just play the game myself. Much more of a personality cult around streamers, and I have no interest in.

But well, people are different. If some people enjoy it, go ahead just explaining from another point of view why I don’t like it

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The most popular streamers aren’t popular because they are good at games, it’s because they are entertaining. The game might be used to draw people in, but it’s not really about the game itself.

I would say watching sports is about the game. No one is watching NFL because Madden was casting it (I know he’s gone, but I don’t know any famous sports casters/commentators).

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You’ve perhaps compared the wrong niche though. Game streamers are the Harlem Globetrotters; you’re not there to watch excellent gaming, but entertaining gaming. Whereas esports are the equivalent to competitive sports.

That said; I too struggle to care about watching either. Even my old boss Limmy, no care for watching him stream.

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I don’t like any of those things but I LOVE watching Twitch. The ability to have your chats read, watch something you like eg gaming and have someone ramble on about whatever is a fun experience for me.

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I legitimately never understood the draw of watching sports, on any level, until I watched people playing hard video games and was fascinated by checking out what they could do and got to share in their vicarious enjoyment of their accomplishment when they overcame.

I was like oh, I get it. That’s why people watch football. Makes sense now.

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So you share the sense of pride and accomplishment!

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10 years ago I was like “why tf would I want to watch someone play a video game when I could just play it myself?”

Now I’m like “why tf would I play this game when I could just watch someone else?”

I guess I’m still interested in what’s going on in gaming in general, but I don’t have any desire to go through all the bullshit of a modern AAA game with a huge repetitive open world, dozens of half assed shallow mechanics (rpg/perk system, loot, crafting etc.), homogenized design, predatory DLC/mtx, and all that. I’d rather play Factorio and watch a streamer play whatever hot new game people are into.

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This is another huge aspect of why I watch streamers. I love games, but some just aren’t for me. It’s great to get to experience something I normally wouldn’t with a community hyping it up and what not. Great point.

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At this point, I know there are so, so, so, so, SO many good games out there from 1977 onwards that I can just play whenever, that I lost interest in checking out new games. Maybe for the graphics, but unless there’s a quantum leap in gaming (like, Matrix-like immersion without the dying), then I’m not interested.

And I don’t exaggerate when I say 1977. Have you played Atari 2600’s Phoenix? Shit is addictive!

Plus all the hundreds of thousands of homebrews.

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I was a pretty heavy Twitch user for a while, even streamed for a couple years myself. The biggest draw for me was the community. Most of the time I couldn’t care less what the person was playing, I was there to interact with them and their communities. It was about the only social/entertainment outlet I had at the time.

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I think most viewers can be grouped into 3 main categories (please note these are just very broad generalizations)

Category 1 viewers watch streams because they like the game that is being played, and basically treat it like watching sports. They want to watch skilled people doing skillful and impressive things. Maybe they play the game themselves, but not always. They tend to focus on categories rather than channels, and are quick to unfollow if a streamer starts playing something else, even if it’s a similar genre.

Category 2 viewers watch streams because of the personality of the streamer and the vibes of the stream, and tend to have parasocial relationship. I won’t say much about this category because I honestly don’t understand the whole parasocial thing at all, I just know it’s a Thing.

Category 3 viewers watch streams because of the streamer’s community. They’re focused on not just the personality of the streamer, but also the kind of environment they foster and how they interact with the viewers. I’m in this group, I’m on twitch to meet people and make some genuine connections. I’ve made some great friends in streams, not just with the actual streamer, but the other chatters as well - we hang out off-stream and play games, watch movies, just chat, etc. This group tends to contain a lot of smaller streamers supporting each other (in a bit of a circle-jerk, I admit)

From what I’ve seen, categories 1 and 2 gravitate towards larger, well-established channels, while category 3 prefer smaller streamers and will be supportive but disappointed if someone they watch becomes “big”.

All of this is just my own observations hanging out on twitch and talking with other viewers and streamers, please take with a grain of salt. Also I have no idea how much of this applies to other streaming platforms like YouTube or Kick.

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I think this is a pretty good summary overall. I’d like to supplement some things:

Category 1 viewers also contain people who want to vicariously live through someone else and experience their favourite game again for the first time. They tend to stick around only for a specific game, and will move on after the playthrough is over.

Category 2 also contains viewers who watch the streams as a pure entertainment product, more akin to watching a comedian. They’re mostly interested in the banter the streamer provides. Many viewers of Northernlion and Jerma fit this description.

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2 points

Exception of category 3: DougDoug

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Category 2 could be comparable to someone watching their favorite talk show host or comedian because they enjoy their personality

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