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Although Russia says there are over 3,100 mercenaries in Ukraine, these newly arriving troops are not mercenaries. They are in uniform, home country proclaimed via insignia. They mostly are concentrated in the western part of the country, although in some cases they are close to the actual fighting in the east.

According to this there are already NATO troops in Ukraine. Any more sources on this? I don’t remember hearing about it to such a degree before.

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US special forces were there since at least 22, recently some military engineers were sent over as well to build to Ukr. fortifications. Minor vassals will popably also sent units.

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23 points

Let it be known that ww3 will start in for real soon

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I really hope you are wrong and/or just being facetious, and I hope my copy paste will help at least somewhat:

I’m highly skeptical that this conflict would go nuclear. It’s unfortunately always a possibility, and people, especially Amerikkkan imperialists nutjobs, can and will do stupid things without thinking about the actions of their consequences, but my two-fold thinking is that not only is nuclear-war really unlikely to happen (or way less than most people think) I think it would very likely also be less destructive, depending on how things go.

People always imagine that in a nuclear war scenario, all bets are off, but I don’t think so. There is usually some sense, even in chaos.

Most or all of the most devastating nuclear weapons were disarmed several decades ago, and the most powerful nuclear weapons today would be able to destroy or damage large cities, even at the most. And yes, there are thousands of nuclear weapons.

But due to the decreased potency of even the strongest nuclear weapons, and there still being a very finite number, even the capitalists probably understand that an irradiated world would be a terrible place to lord over, even if you survive.

Nuclear weapons would most likely and would best be used to damage, delay and destroy military and industrial centers, and with how interconnected the world is now because of the internet, gps, cell phones, and supply chains, a country would be way less likely to get involved in combat when it’s industrial bases, bourgeois palaces and military-intelligence strongholds are utterly demolished, out of basic resources and power and labor, things would resolve relatively quickly, pacifying countries out of a fight with relatively few deaths, since there is no point in launching weapons at massive populations centers if it can be helped, since it would just invite more war, death, destruction, disease, sadness, vengeance, danger.

I can’t speak for the Global North, but I find it hard to believe that those launching nuclear weapons would just shoot them everywhere all over the place at civilians, that would be ridiculously stupid, even in an extreme scenario, all but signing the death warrant of the human species, and targeting civilian and food storehouses and infrastructure would be worse than pointless, it would be stupid.

I think/hope/imagine that if or when NATO is stupid enough to use nuclear weapons, that China, Russia, Iran, Palestine and the DPRK would already be 20 steps ahead, they have been planning for this for decades.

China and Russia’s advanced and partially automated and augmented defense systems would scramble, hack into, shut down, disable, redirect, or outright destroy or prevent nuclear missile launches. Drones would hack into and shut down facilities or weapons themselves. Infrastructure could be shielded and damage minimized in various ways, and supply chains are something that Global South understands intuitively more than the Global North.

I hope it never comes to it, but I think a potential World War 3 would be mostly conventional warfare, and even if it isn’t, a nuclear war wouldn’t mean the death of all or even most of humanity (hopefully) and things would resolve in the Global South’s and socialism’s favor no matter what.

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I hope its mostly conventional warfare too, but WW3 at least in my mind has started or will start soon, I dont see any way NATO would be willing to de-escalate, this situation or any other situation. I do hope I am wrong but I fear that I am not

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I think people slightly overestimate NATO, but it makes sense why people do. All Russia and China have to do is call their bluffs, aim at London, D.C., Brussels, encircle their proxy armies, disable missiles, stop launches, and things will start descending. Not saying it will be easy or fast or peaceful, but I think the situation calls for more hopeful optimism.

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32 points

May NATO be exhausted! And may the Western Financial Bubble burst!

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23 points

that certainly looks to be the direction of travel :)

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how so?

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The west openly admits that it lacks the production capacity to keep up with Russia. There’s a good analysis of the situation here https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine

Russia winning in Ukraine that’s going to be the end of NATO because it will be discredited as an effective force at that point. Meanwhile, Europe will be forced into austerity to fund a huge increase in military spending. Given that Europe is already in recession, and doesn’t have access to cheap energy now, there’s little chance the economic situation will stabilize in the near future. On top of all that, we’re seeing aggressive dedollarization happening outside of G7. This process is directly shrinking western financial economy because trade is increasingly done outside it. This is a problem for US in particular because its infinite debt is premised on the idea that there’s always demand for the dollar. So, we’re seeing military defeat looming for the west along with serious economic problems that are very likely to result in another financial crash.

On the other hand, the BRICS economy is growing fast, and it’s already a bigger economic bloc than the G7. We’re now seeing an economic war starting between the two blocs, and the G7 is the smaller bloc with diminishing opportunities in this equation.

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26 points

So they’re escalating? This isn’t good.

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23 points

they are getting desperate

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