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Sounds like an issue with their work force. Without placing my tin foil hat on they need to hire more people to moderate and clean TOS breaking content.

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Meta is purposefully allowing far right militias to organize because a libertarian/conservative hellscape would mean their corporation becomes one of the largest fiefdoms.

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IME those groups aren’t very libertarian, they’re closer to American Taliban religious fundamentalism.

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Thiel definitely was at one point, but American libertarians have nothing to do with liberty and probably never have.

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Thiel has always been pretty fascist even if he called himself a libertarian. I mean, he wrote that women’s suffrage made capitalism and democracy incompatible in 2009 (guess which he cares about more). He was a speech writer for William Bennett, a neoconservative in the Reagan administration. He founded Palantir. He spoke at Trump’s RNC convention.

Maybe he was a libertarian in his youth when he first read Ayn Rand or something but his actions as an adult are far closer to traditional fascism than traditional libertarianism. (Not implying he wants genocide or anything that “fascist” sometimes implies. I’m using it to mean the core of the ideology that’s reactionary, authoritarian, and willing to use the power of big government and corporations to limit freedom. Please don’t sue me Peter Thiel!)

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As someone that used to work for Meta as a contractor for another company that did content moderation for them: I agree completely with your first statement. They fired all of their US based contractors on content moderation and shipped it back to India where they are overworked and don’t have the cultural insight to know to take this kind of shit down when reported. They also rely heavily on AI for content moderating that was trained by contractors like myself.

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There’s way more police and sheriff’s departments on Facebook than 100.

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Took me a second to get this and I laughed but am now sad by how true this is.

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Not condoning it, but all I can think is how terrible Facebook is for “coordinating” stuff like this. I mean, if FB or the feds wanted to find out who these people are, track them down or something, they can do that pretty easily. People who do stuff like this aren’t too bright, though. So not surprised, I guess.

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I think free speech is really important. As soon as you start on the path of censorship you can’t stop.

It starts with censorship of the extreme and ends with only a handful of allowed beliefs.

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If you tolerate the intolerant, it will eventually bite you. Free speech should be protected, but not tolerated.

https://www.upworthy.com/bartender-explains-why-he-swiftly-kicks-nazis-out-of-his-punk-bar-even-if-theyre-not-bothering-anyone

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But having the right to say whatever the fuck you want and face no consequence isn’t that good .

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Its called democracy (mostly)

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It’s not even “tracking down”. It’s public information that is easily searchable. It should be easy to stay 2 steps ahead of these groups planning things out in the open.

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Yeah, something like Reddit or lemmy would be way better. Make a relatively obscure community with a dog whistle as a name. Anonymous, minimal moderation, and an amount of control to keep the group think in.

But please, use Facebook.

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I only worry that FaceBook might actually cover for them and facilitate them. It’s not exactly a company known for outcomes of Peace and Respect for Human Rights.

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Well, at least in Brazil Meta has been very okay with following judicial orders and prevent anything that could get them in trouble. Telegram is the one recently covering up Nazi groups and school shooters here.

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3 points

Makes them easy to find. Dumbasses.

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Waco 2 time

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35 points

Tell me again how TikTok is dangerous, but Facebook is just grandmas sharing recipes.

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Jan 6 has entered the chat

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On Facebook… So there’s a clear trail of who is planning what and who is agreeing to go along. People with long histories of posting far right content, so when they inevitably cry “but a leftist plant orchestrated all this” there is evidence to the contrary.

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Only if FB wants there to be.

(And they don’t. They’ve actively courted extremists since leaving campus.)

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Nah, they’d give them up when the government shows up with cash.

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Care saying “far right.” On Lemmy some of the users will tell you that the Democratic party is “far right.”

You don’t need to agree with what they post but it should be protected under free speech. This isn’t China

I also think people these days can’t stand seeing anything they don’t agree with. All people see is the stuff tailored to them and there is no discomfort

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