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Listen, there are so many legitimate criticisms of Reddit, no one needs to make things up. This happens every year in June. Somebody posts about Tiananmen, some automod or real mod removes it, someone screams “Reddit” is censoring things.

There are tons of posts about Tiananmen that are still up after years. Tencent owns a small minority stake in Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/121a4lg/have_you_seen_this_footage_of_tiananmen_square/

https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/gvwu6h/megathread_tiananmen_square_massacre/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/v4ryjb/photo_of_the_aftermath_of_tiananmen_square/

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/gw2y6b/the_real_picture_of_tiananmen_square_massacre/

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/11dv95p/the_tank_man_from_tiananmen_square_massacre/

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You did the work, this deserves to be higher in the comments

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Had no idea! Thanks for informing me. I will keep this post up because I think it is an interesting discussion to have

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34 points

So edit your post title, otherwise you’re spreading misinformation.

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spreading misinformation is what he’s here for and so the post stays. why else would one wait 3 weeks to dig up a comment, get all the facts wrong, and use it as clickbait to stir up fake drama over absolutely nothing and make reddit critics look stupid. while plenty of real things are going on where the critics are right. “I will keep this post up because I think it is an interesting discussion to have” my ass and that’s a dead giveaway of the guy’s bad faith agenda. straight from the cointelpro playbook for online misinformation

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How many people will read the title without the comments and leave with the wrong idea?

Not that I think you should take the post down, but the title is quite definitive, and confirms existing biases, so people are unlikely to research further.

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You can edit titles here.

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It’s also just silly to think CPP would bother censoring Tiananmen square on /western/ websites.

Maybe within the firewall, and maybe try to influence coverage on contemporary issues, but I don’t think they actually care about redditors sharing images from their history textbook,

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8 points

This makes a lot more sense. Thank you for your service sir!

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I’m grateful this platform is beginning to have fact checkers.

Great sources, great awareness. Reddit is still shit, but for other reasons, not this.

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You are obviously correct, and I’m not arguing at all, just genuinely curious why it would happen in june specifically?

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That’s the month it happened, so that’s the month people post about it, meaning it’s also the month it’s removed and people cry foul.

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Tiananmen Massacre anniversary is June 4, so there are multiple posts about it (which is great), and a couple of those posts get removed (usually for really obvious violations of sub-specific rules), and someone sees that and cries “Reddit is censoring! CCP shills!”

It’s a damn Reddit tradition at this point

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Thank you, this has to be one of the more annoying Reddit conspiracy theories, especially because every year multiple posts with clickbait titles would hit the front page.

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Also tencent doesn’t have “massive” investments in reddit, they invested 150 million USD when reddit was valued at a worth of 2-3 billion. So they have a less than 10% stake.

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This is the sort of comment I used to go to Reddit for. Quality.

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This sort of comment is why my 5yr Reddit account has > 200K karma. I was very active on Reddit via Boost app, and I’m happy to nuke the whole thing and start over after the way they’ve been acting. I really don’t think they have any idea what they’ve done.

Nice to see you here!

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It would be a shame if subreddits changed their rules to make photos of Tiennamen Square mandatory in all posts.

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Great IDEA, Tugs!

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2 points

Real shame.

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17 points

At this point are we surprised with how bad Reddit blows

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The inevitable outcome of for-profit social media. All social media that has a big obsession with profits will end up like this.

It is also why it won’t suddenly get better. Even if we fire spez, the motivations are still there. The pressure to make the experience worse will always be there.

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The CCP is explicitly communist, and they are the ones responsible for this specific act of censorship.

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Before you go spouting off about stuff you realistically don’t understand, you should know that Reddit is not censoring T-square posts. This post was misinformation and you fell for it. You should learn to fact check things before making statements. Now you look like a silly person with a silly metal hat on.

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Sure, take down a post of a Chinese massacre but allow whole communities dedicated to racism, hatred, bigotry, and pedophilia to exist for years unscathed.

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How are they not in violation of Section 230 at this point? They are clearly moderating for a specific political point of view…

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…how is that a violation of section 230?

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IANAL but there’s suppose to be a blurb in there about not exercising too much control over the content. The more moderating decisions the admins get involved in, the greater the risk in going afoul of this. Once the company has editorial control, they lose the Section 230 protections.

However, since it’s been clarified that the mods did it rather than the admins and it was over the John Oliver rule, that means none of the above applies and it’s not a violation.

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You’re wrong about Section 230.

Section 230 isn’t about an amount of editorial control. It’s simply not the case that a business is labelled as either a publisher or a platform. Instead, any individual piece of content on the site might be deemed to have been published by the owners of the platform or not.

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