Hey y’all
So I’ve been a big anti-Wayland shill around here but decided to finally give it a shot, I installed Debian 12 with GNOME, and can’t seem to get Plank working.
Without the Plank dock, GNOME is unusable, and KDE refuses to autostart Guake (does not save the setting in autostart), and when it works it seems broken (stuck to the left side of the screen).
These are fundamental apps to me for any decent Linux laptop use. What gives? Is there an alternative?
Dash-to-Plank specifically says it does not support Wayland. Plank has had an issue open about Wayland support since 2016, and they still haven’t done it. Can’t blame Wayland.
What’s your use case for Plank? My guess is you’re using GNOME wrong.
“you’re using it wrong” seems more like the official motto of Wayland whenever anything that isn’t working on it is brought up.
I wouldn’t blame Lemmy for a few bad apples like Wildbus though. There are plenty of good people here.
I don’t blame Lemmy even though the official instance (and therefore devs) is kinda sus. They even delete discriminatory comments that I report quite quickly. The thing is that I see toxic comments all the time and what surprises me is that often they’re replies to non-provoking and absolutely reasonable posts/comments (this case is not anywhere near the worst I’ve seen). That means the people behind them are just very aggressive which still hurts me a lot even though I lost hope for humanity quite some time ago. I guess I see a bit more % of them in the wild than you do for some reason
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
I use this and its worked great
Just echoing what others said, Plank does not run on Wayland. You can install the “Dash to Dock” Gnome extension for a very similar experience (minus widgets). If using KDE, consider replacing Guake (which is GTK) with Yakuake (Qt).
You could try Yakuake instead of Guake in KDE?
Sure! Is it missing any features from Guake, or is it just some clone fork?
Well, technically the OG would be Quake, but Yakuake did come before Guake.
You might try Dash to Dock also:
Hi,
It it possible that Plank doesn’t work with Wayland, plain and simple.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/plank/+bug/1632841
The latest version dates back to 2019.
I think Dash to dock is used often.
For Guake the version in Bookworm is from 2022 and you may need to set an environmental variable or perhaps it isn’t built with Wayland support on Debian.
You could hit up the Debian forums for a better answer.
That’s unfortunate. Will have to switch back to X.Org until this is fixed by the Wayland/XWayland developers, is there any clue as to why it specifically wouldn’t work? If it’s updated as recently as 2019 then I’d have expected Wayland to fix this by now, not like I’m trying to run a DOS game or something haha!
Will have to switch back to X.Org until this is fixed by the Wayland/XWayland developers
This isn’t the responsibility of “wayland developers”. The developers of an application need to adapt to the new API.
You could start maintaining Plank yourself.
Making it work on Wayland isn’t simple. It would literally need to be redone from the ground up.
Damn that’s a shame. Hopefully Wayland gets rewritten so middleware stops breaking compatibility for the end-user
