Is the Tower of Babel still affecting us or something?

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We have 8 billion people, yet the best we could muster for the most total speakers of a language is under 2 billion, including non-natives…

  1. English (1,452 million speakers) First language: 372.9 million Total speakers: 1.4+ billion According to Ethnologue, English is the most-spoken language in the world including native and non-native speakers.

https://www.berlitz.com/blog/most-spoken-languages-world#:~:text=1.,English (1%2C452 million speakers)&text=According to Ethnologue%2C English is,native and non-native speakers.

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I’d argue that by your own criteria, English is that language.

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Less then a quarter of people speak English, so not even close.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-speaking_world

Including people who speak English as a second language, estimates of the total number of Anglophones vary from 1.5 billion to 2 billion.

So you’re right: one quarter of people at most. Nonetheless that’s remarkable. Too bad it’s due more to subjugation than cooperation.

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Nowadays it’s probably also because of the dominance of American culture, especially online.

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Awfully generous of the UK to go out of its way to respect Mongolia. I guess you gotta honor that Klingon code.

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Well fuck me sideways I thought it was more than that.

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There’s like 1.2 billion English speakers, including non-native speakers, tho? the OP asks for like 3.5 billion or somethin’… since population globally is 8 billion…

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That’s not how language or communication work. Humans develop language in real time and in small cohorts. You are lucky if you can understand youth slang by the time you hit 40 and you want to force an artificial lingua franca on four billion people?

Plus, who said language uniformity is a positive? Linguistic diversity is a feature, not a bug. Language is tied to culture, identity and a whole bunch of antrhopological elements. Entire ethnicities are defined by their language. It’s bad enough that US cultural imperialism has forced half the planet to watch the same movies and TV shows, why would we do the same with language? If you ask me, there’s way too much English out there as it is.

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It’s bad enough that US cultural imperialism has forced half the planet to watch the same movies and TV shows

I have a comm for you

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Because for most of modern history, we were very isolated from the “outside world”.

Other than the last 200 years, the best “internet” was a dude on a horse. Since groups of humans developed quite independently of each other, they developed their own languages. However in the modern age this is changing rapidly, with many languages and dialects coalescing into one, consistent, language. Additionally many countries have tons of English speakers which is a defacto “universal language”. Most big cities will have english translation for many signs and important documents.

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Erm erm, one sec.

~Love is the Universal language~

Ok you can crucify me now xD

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👉👌

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Even the Tower of Babel cannot take this from us.

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😏? 😉? 👍 🫦🍆✊👅💦💦🤤😪

Who needs a language

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You need a reason for a large group to choose to maintain a single language over over smaller groups creating their own.

Look at Latin, it stayed mainly cohesive due to the Roman Empire and splintered off as the empire collapsed and the necessity for commoners to maintain communication across thousands of miles dwindled.

English is the current lingua francia because the dominant nation has been speaking English for the past two hundred years and created a pop culture market that is both large and rich, creating a positive feedback loop making the market larger and richer.

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English is the current lingua francia because the dominant nation has been speaking English for the past two hundred years and created a pop culture market

Cute that you think it’s the U.S. and it’s little movies that are responsible for English being widely spoken, and not the bloody history of British imperialism being forced on half the planet

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I mentioned the bloody imperialism in the first half of the sentence.

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