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deport all illegal aliens to their country of origin. do it immediately.

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These people are literally legal. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be here.

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Migrant is a euphemism for illegal immigrant, and you know it.

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…what about people who legally immigrate and come through legal border crossings, such as these?

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no one is native to the American continents - humanity is native to Africa and nowhere else.

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All the more reason to deport illegals.

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New Yorkers who are relatively apolitical tend to vote Democrat just because that’s the culturally normal thing to do there. As more and more of them witness the disaster of illegal immigration, I see two possible outcomes: either 1. they start to vote for conservatives, or 2. they pressure Democrat leadership to abandon their pro-illegal policy, and start deporting all of these criminals.

Related: Tiny Texas Border Town Really Sorry To Hear About New York City Struggling With A Few Thousand Migrants

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tend to vote Democrat just because that’s the culturally normal thing to do there

Do you have evidence to support this? Because that is an incredibly simple explanation for something very complicated.

  1. they start to vote for conservatives

Democrats just don’t do that. The GOP is way too extreme for that to happen. It’s to the point that we would rather vote for actual zombies (see Dianne Feinstein) and milquetoast politicians (Biden) over anything GOP because the GOP has been going down the road of authoritarianism.

  1. they pressure Democrat leadership to abandon their pro-illegal policy, and start deporting all of these criminals.

Seems to me that they are more than willing to do what is needed to help those in need. I truly find it bizarre how helping people is seen as a bad thing. And I find it bizarre how dehumanizing them is the norm.

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Do you have evidence to support this?

Just my personal impression from having lived in urban leftist areas. I’m not including anyone who’s keyed into politics, just the other 80%.

Democrats just don’t do that.

The Democrat Party is a coalition. Democrats who believe strongly in political ideals, and who believe Republicans are evil (or close to it) would never vote Republican, sure. But I’m not talking about them. Many Democrats vote as they do just because that’s what their friends and families do, and they’ve never been given a reason to question it. Those are the folks I spoke of, and there’s a ton of them.

Seems to me that they are more than willing to do what is needed to help those in need. I truly find it bizarre how helping people is seen as a bad thing. And I find it bizarre how dehumanizing them is the norm.

We’re talking about illegals here, not normal immigrants. The distinction is crucial.

When somebody’s very first act on American soil is to break the law, that person is a criminal with no regard for civility. Compassion is appropriate when they remain in their home countries, fighting against their oppressors. Compassion is inappropriate for criminals who invade our country with the express purpose of breaking our laws.

Legal immigrants, who I hope have been carefully vetted for American values, are welcome to share our blessed home and our Judeo-Christian values and rugged individualism. Illegal immigrants, otoh, are by definition not.

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Just my personal impression from having lived in urban leftist areas. I’m not including anyone who’s keyed into politics, just the other 80%.

It’s generally unwise to base your arguments off of anecdotes.

We’re talking about illegals here, not normal immigrants.

There is little difference between the two. Both are human, both are trying to escape danger, etc.

When somebody’s very first act on American soil is to break the law, that person is a criminal with no regard for civility.

It’s a misdemeanor, so you are severely exaggerating the severity of the crime. And most often they do so because America has destroyed their country and are seeking refuge. If civility was important, perhaps the U.S. should have thought twice about destabilizing Latin American countries, destabilizing entire ecosystems, and sucking the natural resources of these countries dry.

Compassion is appropriate when they remain in their home countries, fighting against their oppressors.

That’s very easy for somebody to say who has never experienced what it is like to have your family and loved ones in danger for simply existing in one of the countries they are trying to escape from.

Legal immigrants, who I hope have been carefully vetted for American values, are welcome to share our blessed home and our Judeo-Christian values and rugged individualism. Illegal immigrants, otoh, are by definition not.

Legal immigration takes years and thousands of dollars, per person. How is that a reasonable expectation for a family who has nothing but the clothes on their backs, and are actively being hunted by cartels, loan sharks, etc? If it were me, I would do the same as them and cross the border illegally if it meant me and my family would be safe, and I suspect you would too unless you have no self preservation.

If your choices were between your child starving, and committing a misdemeanor, the right thing to do is to feed your child. Just because a law exists doesn’t mean it is moral. Jesus knew that.

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Its the only way to make them listen, to make them suffer as we have.

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