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Well, regardless of what you think of their politics, thatโ€™s a huge loss for a country with the position Iran is in right now. I hope they manage to keep calm and prevent foreign shit starting.

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Itโ€™s mind boggling to me that lemmygrad is the only place Iโ€™ve yet seen anyone show some sort of respect for a world leader dying in a violent accident. Everywhere in the media and online all Iโ€™m seeing is people glad heโ€™s dead. As if heโ€™s ever done anything to any of us to deserve that.

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40 points

Thereโ€™s a pretty long list of other world leaders who if they went out violently like this, Iโ€™d be all ripbozo smoking on the prez pack. Unfortunately, Raeisi is not one of them.

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5 points

I likewise wouldnโ€™t be too fussed over most other world leaders going out in a similar fashion, for sure. But not for ones that actually happen to be on the right side of history.

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7 points

Wasnโ€™t he pretty involved in the suppression of women? All Iโ€™ve read is that he generally wasnโ€™t well liked by any group of the citizenry of Iran

I can understand people feeling concern for Iranโ€™s people and trajectory during a tumultuous time like this, but I donโ€™t think anyone should feel bad heโ€™s gone. He wasnโ€™t a good person

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16 points

That an interesting way of looking at it. If you can find any purity argument for why a politician wasnโ€™t progressive (he wasnโ€™t btw) then itโ€™s a good thing for them to just go up in a fireball. Politics by process of elimination! Say, Yemenis invited Jackson Hinkle to a Zoom conference. Maybe they should go die, too, because theyโ€™re more backward than you and the removeds got to them first! Hell, my favorite Burkina Faso reporting account randomly veers into Christian grimposting about gay people (me).

Just ignore all context for why people are nervous about this in the first place (Iran is playing a critical role in breaking the illusion of US hegemony and this could even be a pointless assassination)! Woo hoo! Billionaire down!

Itโ€™s not like this is going to make the political situation better in Iran if you view it that way. Now he will be memorialized for dying in the midst of a great struggle.

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All Iโ€™ve read is that he generally wasnโ€™t well liked by any group of the citizenry of Iran

I donโ€™t know where youโ€™ve read that but i think youโ€™re about to find out that that was a lie when you see the size of the crowds that will come out to mourn him.

Edit: And as i predicted: โ€œMillions of Iranians rallied across the country to pay their final respects to the late President Raisi.โ€

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2 points

I donโ€™t see any reason why Qassam soleimani would be more liked than Raeisi.

I think a similar sized crowd will be show up

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How is it a loss? Homie was a fucking MONSTER. But reality means nothing to you worthless tankies huh?

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Interesting string of coincidences with a plot on Vucic, attempt on Fico, and now this.

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33 points

I didnโ€™t want to put on my tinfoil hat and go all conspiracy theory on this but I was thinking the same

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lol right, like itโ€™s just such a wild coincidence

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Vuฤiฤ‡ could go honestly ASAPโ€ฆ They also faked โ€˜โ€˜assassinationโ€™โ€™ attempts on him multiple times in media over the years to the point where it became a meme, examples include: alleged plan to snipe him where they put a cut photo of him visiting weapon exhibition, other one to allegedly blow him up with a rocket launcher, grenade launcher, mine etc etc.

You know scratch-that, just oof the entire Balkan political scene, this is 9th circle of hell.

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This hurts. I really wish the best for the iranian people. Even through this tough times, I hope they can come stronger from this.

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Well he was fucking monster so nothing but good will come of it.

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29 points

R.I.P.

Is the cause known yet? Because if someone form foreign country caused this, there could be unseen consequences.

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24 points

Helicopter crashed into a mountain in basically zero visibility fog. Chuck Shumer said that the is suspected no foul play. Sounds to be just an accident. If I remember, this is what brought down Kobes helicopter too

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Oh, yes itโ€™s the same thing as Kobe. So nothing then for now.

But what about other 2 helicopters which were flying alongside, how did they not crash?

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But what about other 2 helicopters which were flying alongside, how did they not crash?

Probably had more experience with flying by instruments only, or they were just being more cautious.

With rotary aircraft, instrument experience varies a lot more from pilot to pilot than fixed wing, that and fixed wing aircraft have a lot more altitude to cushion any mistakes of an inexperienced pilot.

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5 points

*Zero visibility fog induced by a CIA weather machine

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24 points

State media hasnโ€™t implied anything. Iโ€™m sure theyโ€™ll investigate. But helicopters crashing in terrible weather conditions isnโ€™t unusual. Iโ€™d put my money on accident unless some compelling evidence is forthcoming.

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Itโ€™s plausible that this was perpetrated by a foreign entity or even an internal struggle for power, and that the Iranian state knows. It is plausible that the state would still not make this information public. The state and its allies (Syria) has a history of concealing information on this scale, because publicizing this information may make the state look weak, or have the people demanding a military response, which may be unnecessary escalation.

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ุงุฑู‚ุฏ ุจุณู„ุงู… . ๐ŸŒน

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