190 points

Dude. Couldn’t even proofread the easy way out they took

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This almost makes me think they’re trying to fully automate their publishing process. So, no editor in that case.

Editors are expensive.

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19 points

If they really want to do it, they can just run a local language model trained to proofread stuff like this. Would be way better

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This is exactly the line of thinking that lead to papers like this being generated.

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This is what baffles me about these papers. Assuming the authors are actually real people, these AI-generated mistakes in publications should be pretty easy to catch and edit.

It does make you wonder how many people are successfully putting AI-generated garbage out there if they’re careful enough to remove obviously AI-generated sentences.

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I definitely utilize AI to assist me in writing papers/essays, but never to just write the whole thing.

Mainly use it for structuring or rewording sections to flow better or sound more professional, and always go back to proofread and ensure that any information stays correct.

Basically, I provide any data/research and get a rough layout down, and then use AI to speed up the refining process.

EDIT: I should note that I am not writing scientific papers using this method, and doing so is probably a bad idea.

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There’s perfectly ethical ways to use it, even for papers, as your example fits. It’s been a great help for my adhd ass to get some structure in my writing.

https://www.oneusefulthing.org/p/my-class-required-ai-heres-what-ive

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1 point

I’ve heard the word “delve” has suddenly become a lot more popular in some fields

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This article has been removed at the request of the Editors-in-Chief and the authors because informed patient consent was not obtained by the authors in accordance with journal policy prior to publication. The authors sincerely apologize for this oversight.

In addition, the authors have used a generative AI source in the writing process of the paper without disclosure, which, although not being the reason for the article removal, is a breach of journal policy. The journal regrets that this issue was not detected during the manuscript screening and evaluation process and apologies are offered to readers of the journal.

The journal regrets – Sure, the journal. Nobody assuming responsibility …

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What, nobody read it before it was published? Whenever I’ve tried to publish anything it gets picked over with a fine toothed comb. But somehow they missed an entire paragraph of the AI equivalent of that joke from parks and rec: “I googled your symptoms and it looks like you have ‘network connectivity issues’”

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18 points

I am still baffled by the rat dick illustration that got past the review

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2 points

dck

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6 points

Nobody would read it even after it was published. No scientist have time to read other’s papers. They’re too busy writing their own papers. This mistake probably made it more read than 99% of all other scientific papers.

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I think that part of the issue is quantity and volume. You submit a few papers a year, an AI can in theory submit a few per minute. Even if you filter 98% of them, mistakes will happen.

That said, this particular error in the meme is egregious.

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30 points

Daaaaamn they didn’t even get consent from the patient😱😱😱 that’s even worse

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15 points

I mean holy shit you’re right, the lack of patient consent is a much bigger issue than getting lazy writing the discussion.

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10 points

It’s removed from Elsevier’s site, but still available on PubMed Central: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11026926/#

The worse part is, if I recall correctly, articles are stored in PubMed Central if they received public funding (to ensure public access), which means that this rubbish was paid with public funds.

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157 points

Hold up. That actually got through to publishing??

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110 points

It’s because nobody was there to highlight the text for them.

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30 points

The entire abstract is AI. Even without the explicit mention in one sentence, the rest of the text should’ve been rejected as nonspecific nonsense.

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29 points

That’s not actually the abstract; it’s a piece from the discussion that someone pasted nicely with the first page in order to name and shame the authors. I looked at it in depth when I saw this circulate a little while ago.

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4 points

Maybe a big red circle around the entire abstract would have helped

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43 points

It’s Elsevier, so this probably isn’t even the lowest quality article they’ve published

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yea lol

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1930043324004096

I’ve recently been watching a lot of videos on prominent cases of fraud and malpractice like Francesca Gino, Claudine Gay, Hwang Woo-suk, etc., which prompted me to start reading more into meta-research as well, and now I’m basically paranoid about every paper I read. There’s so much shady shit going on…

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Yep. And AI will totally help.

Ooh I mean not help. It’ll make it much worse. Particularly with the social sciences. Which were already pretty fuX0r3d anyway due to the whole “your emotions equal this number” thing.

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Many journals are absolute garbage that will accept anything. Keep that in mind the next time someone links a study to prove a point. You have to actually read the thing and judge the methodology to know if their conclusions have any merits.

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Full disclosure: I don’t intend to be condescending.

Research Methods during my graduate studies forever changed the way I interpret just about any claim, fact, or statement. I’m obnoxiously skeptical and probably cynical, to be honest. It annoys the hell out of my wife but it beats buying into sensationalist headlines and miracle research. Then you get into the real world and see how data gets massaged and thrown around haphazardly…believe very little of what you see.

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I have this problem too. My wife gets so annoyed at things because I question things I notice as biases or statistical irregularities instead of just accepting that they knee what they were doing. I have tried to explain it to her. Skepticism is not dismissal and it is not saying I am smarter than them, it is recognizing that they are human and that I may be more proficient in one spot they made a mistake than they were.

I will acknowledge that the lay need to stop trying to argue with scientists because “they did their own research”, but the actually informed and educated need to do a better job of calling each other out.

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A good tactic, though not perfect, is to look at the journal impact factor.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_factor

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15 points

We are in top dystopia mode right now. Students have AI write articles that are proofread and edited by AI, submitted to automated systems that are AI vetted for publishing, then posted to platforms where no one ever reads the articles posted but AI is used to scrape them to find answers or train all the other AIs.

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How generative AI is clouding the future of Google search

The search giant doesn’t just face new competition from ChatGPT and other upstarts. It also has to keep AI-powered SEO from damaging its results.

More or less the same phenomenon of signal pollution:

“Google is shifting its responsibility for maintaining the quality of results to moderators on Reddit, which is dangerous,” says Ray of Amsive. Search for “kidney stone pain” and you’ll see Quora and Reddit ranking in the top three positions alongside sites like the Mayo Clinic and the National Kidney Foundation. Quora and Reddit use community moderators to manually remove link spam. But with Reddit’s traffic growing exponentially, is a human line of defense sustainable against a generative AI bot army?

We’ll end up using year 2022 as a threshold for reference criteria. Maybe not entirely blocked, but like a ratio… you must have 90% pre-2022 and 10% post-2022.

Perhaps this will spur some culture shift to publish all the data, all the notes, everything - which will be great to train more AI on. Or we’ll get to some type of anti-AI or anti-crawler medium.

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To me, this is a major ethical issue. If any actual humans submitted this “paper”, they should be severely disciplined by their ethics board.

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But the publisher who published it should be liable too. Wtf is their job then? Parasiting off of public funded research?

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40 points

Yes

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9 points

Bitfucker knew that was rhetorical.

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5 points

Research journals are often rated for the quality of the content they publish. My guess is that this “journal” is just shit. If you’re a student or researcher, you will come across shit like this and you should be smart enough to tell when something is poor quality.

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6 points

A spanking!

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98 points

Maybe, if reviewers were paid for their job they could actually focus on reading the paper and those things wouldn’t slide. But then Elsevier shareholders could only buy one yacht a year instead of two and that would be a nightmare…

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Elsevier pays its reviewers very well! In fact, in exchange for my last review, I received a free month of ScienceDirect and Scopus…

… Which my institution already pays for. Honestly it’s almost more insulting than getting nothing.

I try to provide thorough reviews for about twice as many articles as I publish in an effort to sort of repay the scientific community for taking the time to review my own articles, but in academia reviewing is rewarded far less than publishing. Paid reviews sound good but I’d be concerned that some would abuse this system for easy cash and review quality would decrease (not that it helped in this case). If full open access publishing is not available across the board (it should be), I would love it if I could earn open access credits for my publications in exchange for providing reviews.

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I’ve always wondered if some sort of decentralized, community-led system would be better than the current peer review process.

That is, someone can submit their paper and it’s publicly available for all to read, then people with expertise in fields relevant to that paper could review and rate its quality.

Now that I think about it it’s conceptually similar to Twitter’s community notes, where anyone with enough reputation can write a note and if others rate it as helpful it’s shown to everyone. Though unlike Twitter there would obviously need to be some kind of vetting process so that it’s not just random people submitting and rating papers.

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Perhaps a Lemmy server, in which only moderator-approved users can vote on posts?

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Open access credits is a fantastic idea. Unfortunately it goes against the business model of these parasites. Ultimately, these businesses provide little to no actual value except siphoning taxpayer money. I really prefer eLifes current model but it would be great if it was cheaper. arXiv, Biorxiv provides a better service than most journals IMO

Also I agree with the reviewing seriously and twice as often as publishing. Many people leave academia so reviewing more can cover them.

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Perhaps paid reviews would increase quality because unpaid reviews are more susceptible to corruption

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6 points

Fuck that, they should pay special bounty hunters to expose LLM garbage, I’d take that job instantly

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