The author may be a right-wing fellow. Nonetheless, the data he exposes are taken from official Mozilla docs.
Great post. Does it matter if it’s right or left wing? How did you concluded that
It absolutely matters. We need to consider that a right-wing actor is likely to exaggerate claims against an organization that is ostensibly socially-minded and represents anti-corporate interests, like Mozilla.
Organization represents anti-corporate interests.
CEO gets paid almost all donations despite poor performance.
Seems pretty corporate interests to me.
I’m not denying that Mozilla has a history of poor governance. But they are the competitor to Google here. You need to consider these things in context to understand what anti-corporate means for the internet.
Lunduke is known to have been defending quite extremist (on the right side of the political spectrum) view point on certain subjects.
As such, many people, me included, do not really like him.
Ad hominem applies to arguments. The source of an argument does not affect the soundness of that argument.
But it’s not a fallacy to question an overarching narrative based on the source. If a person keeps selectively choosing facts and twisting words to forward a specific narrative, it’s not fallacious to view what that person says with skepticism.
Edit: Typo. Also changed “valid” to “sound”.
I moved from FF to Vivaldi (couldn’t find better browser, and form that to LibreWolf) due to how shitty the Mozilla Corp is. We need a fair player here but doesn’t seem that we gonna have anything anytime soon
Mozilla is shitty, so you’re opting for Google instead? That’s like saying the air quality is bad, and opting to jump in the ocean and drown.
@Evkob @Gargari, this is not so clear, Mozilla has made a pact with the devil some years ago and is sponsored by Google, it even employs several Google devs who develop FF, the risk of depending on outside investors. Chromium is certainly from Google, but it is, just like Gecko, FOSS and therefore every browser developer is free to gut it, throwing out any Google API, which they are doing in Vivaldi (leaving some to the user’s choice in settings), no homecalls to Google.
https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/a-dangerous-conflict-of-interest-between-firefox-and-google/
FWIW, Vivaldi attracts a lot of the FF power users that updates like Quantum abandoned. Vivaldi honestly wipes the floor with Firefox feature-wise especially for tab organisation, but the fact it’s Chromium might push some people away.
It would’ve been nice if they used Gecko, but eh. I went from FF to Vivaldi to now, the Firefox fork Pulse. It’s a bit janky sometimes, but with native vertical tabs and the Simple Tab Groups add-on I love it enough to use it as my main browser, and there’s little to no bloat. There’s also Floorp, another Firefox fork, this time from a Japanese community, which AFAIK predates Pulse and is inspired by Vivaldi, implementing some of its features like Tab Workspaces. Worth mentioning for those wanting a more Vivaldi-like experience.
Oh sorry, my reading comprehension is clearly lacking :P I’ve been eyeing LibreWolf for a while, but I’m mostly too lazy to switch my addons over.
I’m a Firefox fanboy, but a lot of these expenses do seem really odd.
Is there any organization with totally claear finances and nothing strange anywhere?
I haven’t seen one.
This analysis means nothing since it is only one daya point.
Like saying “you are worst human being because you are jaywalked yesterday”, there is no comparstion with other companies in smiliar business.
Those are Google and Microsoft. Are they really better than Mozilla
I think a more accurate metaphor would be “you are the worst human being because people gave you money to buy food and you spent it on luxury items”.
Also, while a lot of organizations have shady balance sheets, that’s not a good thing nor a reason for us to accept it.
With FF being one of the last bastions of actual web-freedom on the internet, it wouldn’t surprise me for people to start digging for things in an effort to get rid of them once and for all. Especially with Google’s new attempt at web-DRM.
Not many browsers left that aren’t chromium/webkit based. Feels like it’s only a matter of time before Google succeeds where Microsoft failed back in the early 00’s…
With FF being one of the last bastions of actual web-freedom on the internet
How cute people who sincerely believe the fairy tales Mozilla tells…
Mozilla has been mismanaged for years. Their share of the browser market tanked while the current CEO earned millions.
Hell, when they were Netscape they lost to IE. IE became the default that it did because Netscape Navigator would take 5 minutes to boot up, and would load pages slower too.
Yes. Because Microsoft lost an entire gigantic anti-trust case over building the Browser into the OS.
Of course it loaded faster when MS poisoning the well of open web standards with embrace and extend.
And we have the records to prove this.
In a way I agree with you, but it’s kind of well known that Mozilla depends a lot on Google from earning money. So I’m not sure that if Google pushes the DRM project, Mozilla will bite the hand that feeds it.
But the good thing is that we will probably see that very soon :)
Uhm, aren’t all questions raised in that text completely on point?
I’m as far left as it gets but none of these expenses make any sense to me. The CEO pay is bonkers. Wtf are they doing? Why does the CEO deserve to basically collect the entirety of donations for… basically just extending a cash cow deal with Google?
I don’t give a damn if the author is on the right but so far this looks sus as fuck.
Firefox being as good and fast as it is probably more an accomplishment of individual teams inspite of company leadership and that should be called out.
Can’t sell yourself as the underdog if you’re got almost half a billion in assets.
The CEO didn’t get that money from the Mozilla Foundation though, but rather Reportable compensation from related organizations (W-2/1099-MISC/1099-NEC) which can be anything like parent companies or subsidiaries, etc. https://www.mlrpc.com/articles/decipher-form-990-sections-compensation-reporting/
Not sure if that makes it better, but the other compensation looks fairly alright to me.
Agreed. The only official Mozilla response to Google’s WebDRM that I’ve seen was on the git page where the Firefox engineer raised the concern. Mozilla’s Google liaison shot down the statement opposing WebDRM as “premature” since it is currently “only a proposal” (by a working group of Google engineers).
I read through it and I don’t know what the issue is?
There seems to be an issue with Mozilla supporting diversity and inclusion. Also he has an issue with them having enough money to run the business. I.e. not living paycheck to paycheck.
This article is nothing.
What organization? The one for 20k?
I followed the data because the writer was too lazy too or they didn’t because it goes against their bullshit theory that Mozilla is up to something.
He’s the mysterious 30k: https://tisch.nyu.edu/about/directory/itp/721403706
More problems with diversity and inclusion:
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