I’ve posted some controversial stuff, and I understand why I would be getting down voted for that. But I see some of my posts and comments are in the negatives for seemingly no reason at all? I don’t really care about the karma because I can’t see it anyway, but I’m worried that comments and posts here are gonna get downvoted and dismissed without further consideration solely because of the negative score, like what would happen on reddit. I suspect someone, a troll, a bot, or a misclick downvoted my comment or post and people just followed along downvoting in turn. It’s either that, or I genuinely said something bad but I can’t figure for the life of me that it is indeed bad. My prime example is my support post for commenting under certain posts, why did that get the downvotes? And I see this kind of thing sometimes on other people’s comments as well, and I’m baffled, is it me who can’t understand why something is bad, or hive mind came here too?

EDIT: it seems i wasn’t clear enough. a) I’m not worried about getting the actual downvotes. I’m worried about downvotes stopping to be a tool to gauge content. b) I’m not worried about controversial opinions’ downvotes, I already said I’m not surprised I got downvoted there. I was talking about totally mundane posts, like that one support post. c) I’m not talking about people simply disagreeing, I’m talking about people immediately disregarding a post because of the downvote count. it’s not correct to say this doesn’t happen, it totally does and… how am I supposed to prove that? all it takes on reddit is see a comment on 0 for no reason and see it quickly drop to -5

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Op’s question is not a question at all. It’s a scare mongering tactic that invents a hivemind boogeyman, claims victimhood, and seeks weaker minds to join his false crusade. At best, he’s looking for attention.

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Well that was an excellent, nuanced, comment - cheers. I have seen examples supporting OPs observation, but I’m too new to know if this is a change.

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I’m not entirely sure what this is. is this an attempt at a gotcha?

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Yup.

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I can’t believe that you’d make this post then be dumb enough to admit to being a /r/PCM user. Thanks fascist, I’m glad you aren’t comfortable here.

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I see we’re resorting to accusing of fascism again

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Give him some slack, he’s young. At least I assume so.

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Yes fascism is bad, but you don’t change minds and have productive conversation with aggressive language.

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Voting is garbage. It’s a cancer on all these type sites. Deciding the value of a post only requires basic literacy, and someone else’s opinion is irrelevant. I only upvote posts as a reward to the author. It isn’t for anyone else. Others should read the post and decide for themselves what value it has.

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It satisfies a human desire so that’s why they retain voting.

Much prefer old school bulletin forums where you just comment and nasty comments are removed and you may even get a ban.

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At a infrastructure level the voting system is distributed content moderation. So that you don’t have to rely on a core group of moderators to flag bad content

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Guess it seems to work in very large communities.

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If someone writes a well worded, well thought out opinion that I disagree with what is the proper way to respond? Up vote because it’s a high quality comment? Down vote because I disagree? Reply with my own comment? What if my opinion is already expressed in another comment thread already?

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+1

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Voting is a good thing. People need to hear that their opinion or their post is garbage, twitter and Facebook only allow you to leave positive signals which leads to people having over inflated ideas of self worth

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I was just talking with chatGPT about this. I know I say controversial things and all but I still try to always be respectful and I don’t say things I don’t believe just to get a reaction. I genuinely try to bring some nuance in the discussions I read but sometimes it truly feels like pissing in the wind. Here you get downvoted for saying you use twitter in a thread about what social media platforms you use and sometimes just stating facts that anyone can google still gets you downvoted.

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100% there’s a hivemind. That’s why I joined lemmy.one, downvotes are disabled to try and stop hivemind downvotings and encourage discussion. On local communities it works well, if only more of the bigger federations disabled them too.

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