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Fun fact: During BLM, a lot of the national guard said that they felt like their job, being sent in to “keep order,” was to protect the protestors from the police.

National guard is different from city police. Most of their time is spent in training, or on things where they’re helping (disasters being a big one). I don’t really know where they shake down on the “going to Kent State and killing protestors” versus “being the only government agency to rescue people with any level of competence and humanity after Hurricane Katrina” scale, in the present day, but I wouldn’t automatically assume they’re the enemy.

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Correct. Trump also dispatched 750 militarized federal officers through DHS in Portland, sending Secret Service, PFS, CPB, and ICE to shut down protests.

https://www.opb.org/article/2021/04/21/dhsreport-says-750-federal-officers-sent-to-2020-protests-in-portland/

Biden has not dispatched any forces to dispel protests. Criticism of police conduct should go directly to the mayor of the respective city. Write them and make sure they hear your concerns.

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I had a former colleague called up to Minneapolis during that uprising. That seems to be what their understanding generally was. At one point, they were shot at. Returning fire was very much not on their minds, it was more making sure people were OK (no one was hurt).

Keep order was the idea.

Seemed the person shooting was basically trying to provoke them. It failed.

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Shit like this is why we need to stop allowing our cops to feel like they’re soldiers when they have absolute jack shit in the way of training. *

Acorn hits a cops car and he thinks he needs to kill a man. National Guard actually gets shot at and they don’t give a fuck.

  • or yknow, stop letting them play army full stop
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The National Guard has discipline. Police have qualified immunity.

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Cross the “people” and than you have what most people think about vegans.

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Yeah, the irony is crazy

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Quiet? Polite? Easily ignored? Those are the protesters they like.

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“Single issue voters”

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