When I see footage of protesters they mostly get tackled, tear gassed, or chased off. And in no way have I ever see them with a gun, knife, or any other form of defense to protect themselves.

Poorly organized and no preparation.

You don’t always even need weapons. If you have a large mass of people, you shouldn’t let a few chuds fuck up anyone in your group. I hate seeing videos of one lone asshole harassing a whole crowd. I remember recently seeing a video of one Zionist doing that to abig Palestinian protest, and most in the crowd were White. It’s embarrassing.

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Totally agree with you, this stuff seems to happen much less at demonstrations where there is an organized group with some security plan.

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I would like to add that if you defend yourself the police will see it as violence and you won’t just be arrested but you’ll end up in jail

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In the US, you,ll end up dead.

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That too

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Because these protesters don’t realize the US has no conscience.

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Take the student protests in The Netherlands for example. The second someone takes a knife or a bat or even a gun to these protests, it’s over. You will probably be shot by the riot police. The media will be all over the place trying to demonise you even more. Regardless of the cause you are protesting for.

This isn’t some adventurist fantasy. Actual protests and mass movements need organisation, discipline and strategy. Fringe groups trying to fight cops with weapons, however justified they may be, are not going to help your cause in any way.

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I have a couple of thoughts regarding this.

First, in America at least, we spend a significant amount of time and energy legitimizing “nonviolent, civil disobedience” actions of the past , while pointing at any group that defends itself in any other capacity as just as bad, or worse!, than the status quo/gov/cops/take your pic. There is only one valid way, outside the ballot box, to demand/make change within liberal society and it is to literally demand that the gov/cops/military/local assholes beat you so badly that other onlookers are too embarrassed to let it carry on. This method is lovely for the ruling class because they can physically squash the people with demands and, if they are few enough of them, the protest ends, and the ruling class get several more years to run things.

As an extension of above, protest organizers, and some protestors, explicitly know that the cops are there to escalate the situation. To avoid escalation many people simply do not defend themselves or others.

This is all vibes base analysis based on my own experiences at protests, including ones where cops escalate the situation. I wouldn’t take it too seriously.

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other onlookers are too embarrassed to let it carry on

I think the OP meant in America

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