I know high end grinders are probably worth it for espresso, but for pour-over coffee does it make that much difference? I use a Capresso Infinity at either fine coarse or medium coarse and that’s about it. Visibly the grind size does look a bit variable to me. Since I’m already in conical bur territory here, are higher end grinders really going to make a noticeable difference in my pour-over brews? If you feel strongly the answer is yes, I’m also curious what you would recommend (but please don’t bother naming anything over $500usd unless you provide a link to a used version that is in that range).

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Ever considered hand grinding? The comanante is the high-end for that. But James Hoffman just made a video about a decent 35$ hand-grinder. Try to get metal burrs.

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No. Arthritis. Thank you though.

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Seriously, hand grinder with a power drill on the shaft. Even if you bought a cheap second hand drill just for this, you’d still be ahead

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I do this and would not recommend for someone with arthritis. You have to have a strong grip to keep the hand grinder from spinning

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Ha. Okay, I’ll bite. What’s so great about the hand grinders? Understand you’ll save a little money without a motor, but M I missing something else?

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I’m not familiar with the Capresso Infinity, but I can compare my Fellow Ode 2 with the Baratza Encore I got my mom for Xmas last year. Both were purchased on sale for Black Friday. The Ode I got for $265 and the Encore for $120.

I’m not really a super taster. I don’t think I can tell “muddy” from “clear” without doing a direct side by side comparison. As long as the beans are fresh and not over roasted, I’m basically fine. This was the conclusion I came to after doing James Hoffman’s Great American Taste Test.

So with all that said, what I appreciate feature and design wise with the Ode over the Encore:

  1. The Ode is much quieter
  2. The Ode’s anti static technology is a game changer for me. (I would honestly consider going back to preground coffee without this)
  3. The Ode’s controls are nicer.
  4. The Ode has less retention (but still more than I’d like)
  5. The Ode’s design is more pleasing visually (to me)

I know a lot of this is subjective and I also understand a lot of what makes the premium worth it to me is irrelevant to others.

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I just bought a Kingrinder K6 as a replacement for a Porlex Tall. The coffee tastes so much better, a lot less bitter, because the coffee is ground much more homogeneously.

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I’ve now seen enough mentions of this model that I’m more or less decided to buy one. But, where can I get it? The KINGrinder site only points to Amazon where the K6 is currently unavailable. Now what?

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Amazon seems to sell em for the lowest price, I got one for 88€. Just write a mail to the manufacturer, I’m shure they will answer why it’s out of stock.

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Shopped up the K6, got a discount coupon code thingy (, repeatedly fended off Amazon trying to trick me into starting a Prime trial…), placed my order, and… it’ll be here in a month. Guess the manufacturer have their hair on fire right now.

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I have a Baratza Vario and an Aergrind, which are both pretty good grinders. The Vario is a much larger flat burr grinder, and I feel like there’s a pretty drastic difference with the taste of my aeropress coffee with it. Much less bitterness and a cleaner flavor. So I would say it’s worth it. That being said, I also feel like I stop tasting the coffee after a couple weeks with the same beans. So maybe it’s wasted money and effort in that regard. Regardless, I think you would do well with a Fellow Ode or a refurbished Vario

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Appreciate the insight. On the rare occasion I’m not brewing multi-cups with chemex, I do actually prefer the aeropress for a single cup so it would be nice to optimize that as well. This discussion has me eying the ode. When my tax return money finally shows up I think I’m going to go for it. I also feel like I lose some of the flavor nuances with the same beans after a bit, but I can still tell when it’s a botched brew. I only buy 12 ounce bags and try to switch things up pretty frequently.

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If it’s the same bag or a different bag from the same roast date then that couple of weeks is quite possibly related to the age of the beans.

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I’d go for a df64 if you don’t mind single dosing. Great grinder, in your budget, and is comparable to slightly higher priced models. But I’d say if you like the coffee you’re making there’s really no need to change. I wouldn’t let fomo guide your decision unless you’re wanting something new and different in your coffee.

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Just chasing perfection, guess it is fomo but sometimes that pays off, other times not. Seems like the greater consensus from what I’m reading is that ode would be better than df64 for pour over. You have any thoughts on that?

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Both are quite good but please be looking at the Ode 2 and not the original Ode. Same goes for the DF64, make sure that it is Gen 2 and not the original.

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I think you’re dealing with miniscule differences overall between each machine. It can be hard to discern who is just parroting something they heard from Lance vs things that are objective facts. If you’re chasing perfection I’d be looking at something more expensive. But there’s also your beans which is an easier thing to account for. How fresh are they, what kind of varietals are you choosing. Try different origins and see how the tastes change. I think that would get you much further than worrying about which grinder to upgrade to.

Ie if you don’t already have practiced tastes it might be better to focus on that before anything else. It’ll help you experiment with something more fun like different flavors rather than eeking more or better flavor from your existing stock.

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