Lemmy.world still discussing if they want to defederate from an instance taken over by exploding-heads.

An instance that includes such gems as

CW Transphobia, Homophobia

https://rammy.site/post/326086

Strange pattern emerging from lemmy.world with an admin advertising their business in the adhd community, allowing virulently Islamophobic atheistmemes community and now repeating the exploding-heads (we have to patiently discuss blocking the instance) course of action instead of a preemptive defederation, it is their last resort though.

The post on lemmy.world discussing it as well: https://lemmy.world/post/2680147

As of this post the blocked instances are here

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Lemmy.world admins are obviously fascists. The fact that they pearl-clutch over defederating Nazi instances while defederating socialist instances without a second thought proves this.

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my theory is that they begrudgingly keep lemmygrad around because it at least reinforces libs’ ideas of what commies are like aesthetically (engaging with our ideas is of course not in the cards), whereas hexbear is at times more aesthetically inviting to libs, and unserious, and in that way can serve as a pipeline for different types of people to learning that hey, maybe US hegemony is actually a bad thing, and on from there… Hexbear is much more ideologically consistent than r/cth ever was but it still leaves enough wiggle room to serve as a radicalizing force I think, which is what scares our scratched friends over at lemmy.world

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They said it was because hexbear was pushing an ideology and therefore had nothing of value to add to the conversation

As opposed to liberals who preemptively ban forums so that people won’t get exposed to anything anti-nato. No ideology there.

This site is not advocating violence (like plenty of left groups do) and it’s not instigating bigotry (you’re allowed to make your own thoughts and opinions.) What your advocating for is basically censorship and you’re trying to turn this place into another far-left Reddit hell hole.

Lol. Lmao even.

If it’s as bad as it sounds from the quotes I read, then it should definitely be defederated from. Any instance peddling hate and/or propoganda needs to be defederated immediately. They need to be denied audiences.

I expect this person think they are a completely rational actor and not affected in the least by ‘propaganda’. Now, we need to report on our wholesome chungus Ukrainian patriots who have those silly tattoos and worship literal fucking nazis as cuddly friendos who love cattos. It is only propaganda if it goes against the imperial core corporate media.

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Any instance peddling hate and/or propoganda

Ban news and politics communities too then. What the fuck do these people think propaganda is? Also puting hate on the same level as spreading of ideas is absurd.

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By ‘hate’ they mean . The most fragile kkkrackkkas.

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Liberals continue to prove they are just fascism-light.

This is why anti-communism should always be treated with suspicion.

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Something something about the moderate wing of fascism.

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Curious

Did they ever try to reach the admins here?

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No, when I asked them about it in the admin channels they started calling me a troll, spamming me with clown emojis and asking me to prove ill suck off a liberal???

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So they’re openly admitting that they’re treating a transphobic nazi instance better than a trans inclusive leftist one. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds, every single time.

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From the LW admin:

Honestly those ultra right-wingers are pretty bad but the ultra left-wingers are worse.

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It is blocked now but they knew it was being used as a front for exploding-heads for 12 hours while they were “discussing it” and “reaching out to the rammy.site admin” if only they reached out to us … When I mentioned it in the lemmy instance admin chat they kept demanding an explanation for how I could possibly say “suck off a liberal and a fascist cums”

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I’m having trouble finding it in the Matrix room. Do you happen to have screenshots or preferably a timestamp we can scroll up to in the official room?

Please don’t think it’s because I don’t trust you. But they seem to be doing a damn good job taking command of the narrative and I’m seeing if we can get an archive of public recorded interactions for the Hexbear vs Dotworld incident going. Something unbiased we can post that’s independently verifiable and can allow general Lemmy users to form their own conclusions.

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which group of admins is saying this, the lemmy.ml admins? or lemmy.world

why do they all keep choosing the same names

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lemmy.world, lemmy.ml admins & mods are good people

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And the redditors of lemmy.world will lap this shit up

“LW Admins must be Nazi lovers and transphobes” so that one is correct then

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Actions speak louder than words

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Reading those comments makes me realize what a special place we have here.

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I don’t want to federate anymore tbqh

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I wonder if we were to do another people be more trepidatious maybe? Just given how weird things have gotten around here recently (imo) and how much the inter-instance drama has already become so prevalent of a topic. And we haven’t even federated yet!

There are valid reasons to federate, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t worried about some of the potential ways it could change this community.

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There are pinned posts in !hexbear@hexbear.net where users can nominate an instance to be added to or removed from our allow-list. I’ll be monitoring it and updating our list frequently. Many smaller instances have reached out stating their excitement to federate with us, it is pretty much lemmy.world that is a bad actor. I personally think that they were approached by Threads as they have a popular mastodon instance and may have nefarious goals to EEE on lemmy.

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Lexit

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