9 points

This has been available for most of the year. What took any tech news org so long to even awknowledge its existence?

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I started using it when DDG and Startpage went down. Seems pretty handy. Good to know they’ve added more AI models.

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How anonymous is that thing ?
Ai needs data training & correction from us as user

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You can train models of all kinds without disclosing anything personal about a user. Also see differential privacy

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“Keep in mind that, as a model running through DuckDuckGo’s privacy layer, I cannot access personal data, browsing history, or user information. My responses are generated on-the-fly based on the input you provide, and I do not have the ability to track or identify users.”

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5 points

Let’s be honest, regardless of whether or not this is true, it’s been instructed to say that.

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Training and fine tuning happens offline for LLMs, it’s not like they continuously learn by interacting with users. Sure, the company behind it might record conversations and use them to further tune the model, but it’s not like these models inherently need that

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Couple good points in the comments -

Using LLMs to avoid the blank page problem:

For AI, bring your own data:

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Ars Technica forums are alright, I usually take a look there whenever I read something on their site

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And this is why I stopped using DDG. I swear, I’m just going to have to throw away my computer in the future if this fucking AI bullshit isn’t thrown away like the thieving, energy-sucking, lying pile of garbage that it is.

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You can disable ads and AI in the settings.

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If it’s using different AI models and allowing anonymity, I am not sure what’s the issue? Do you also object to using a calculator?

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Calculator?! Those thieving, energy-sucking piles of garbage! Abacus till I die!

But seriously, AI is insidious in how it data mines us to give us answers, and data mines our questions to build profiles of users. I distrust assurances of anonymity by big data corpos.

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I am not sure what method DDG is using for their model updates, I think it’s only fair if journalists follow up with them for clarification. Local LLMs, ones you can download to your machine for use, would circumvent privacy concerns if you’re not updating the weights in some way

Edit to clarify I meant updating the weights using online learning, but it’s still possible to update weights using pre trained weights you can download

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