Reddit used to be a pretty cool thing. And it still has a lot of good information. But I always feel dirty when I do resort to searching Reddit for information.
Aaron Swartz would be appalled.
I have never gotten a reliable answer from a quora result. I avoid them like the plague now.
I’ve only ever seen Quora as a joke, I didn’t think people were actually getting good answers there.
Quora is off brand yahoo answers. All of the misinformation and none of the humor
I’m pretty sad these days when I see an issue marked as solved, but then when I get to the solution it just says “this comment has been deleted in objection to the API changes and Steve Huffman is a dirty little piss boy”. We’ve lost millions of hours worth of answers because of Reddit 's greed.
The best way to find information on the internet is to give up on Google and use Kagi. Add a question mark at the end of your search and it’ll summarize all of the top results for you, directly giving you the answer and saving you tons of time. They include sources if you want to dig deeper.
Only thing holding me back from Kagi is the impossibility of privacy and a credit card associated with my user.
That’s understandable, but you’re nowhere near private with Google either. They definitely know who you are, even if you never log in. At least with Kagi they’re not logging everything and keeping a record of everything you do. They do have an option to enable history, but I have it turned off.
They do have an option to enable history, but I have it turned off.
Actually, that “setting” is there just for show. It can’t be turned on. Underneath the setting, it says
Currently this option can not be turned on. Kagi does not save any searches by default. In the future we may add features that will utilize your search history and then we will allow you to enable this.
Any chance they accept gift cards or a temporary Visa you can charge up? If not, that would be a bummer.
it’ll summarize all of the top results for you, directly giving you the answer
This is literally what the Google AI thing that everyone has been mocking does. For example, it suggested gluing cheese onto a pizza because that was a highly up voted comment on the reddit thread that was the top search results.
Except the Kagi one actually works well and doesn’t tell you to drink glue.
Tbh I find it hard to believe that it’s actually better, knowing how many resources Google probably poured into getting the summaries right already. If the same amount of scrutiny were applied to Kagi’s summaries, people would probably find similarly embarrassing answers.
Sadly, their CEO is kind of a weirdo. There was a recent post chain on Mastodon I think where a user shared their disappointment with Kagi - had something to do with their not being as privacy-focused as they claimed they are - and the CEO just decided to keep sending unsolicited emails to the OP about this, trying to with them over with phone and video calls
For the record, the real trick is to add “site:reddit.com”. But as the site decays over time that will sadly become less useful.
I really think they are going to start requiring logins or the app to view most content. That seems to be what they are going toward with the “unreviewed content” thing.
This ain’t just Google. SEO effectively killed all search engines. As an IT guy who’s been googling shit before I was 10, I can’t find shit anymore.
As a programmer and system admin, I’ve been using Google since its inception, too. I can’t think of an instance that I’ve failed to find whatever I’m looking for in recent times. People say what you’re saying a lot, so I don’t doubt you. It just makes me wonder what it is you guys are searching for because I search for some extremely obscure stuff quite often with no issues. This is all to say, I have a fair share of qualms with Google, but the search engine itself isn’t one of them.
I think a lot of it is that the content that google returns is mostly ads or clickbait articles that contain no useful information. You can usually find what you are looking for but you have to actually put time and effort into filtering all the bullshit now.
Maybe it is my ad blocker that is filtering this kind of stuff for me. Or maybe the things I look up most often are specific enough that there isn’t much bullshit or clickbaity stuff to show. Sure, I’ll see the occasional “Sponsored” link. I think my brain just auto-filters those and I don’t even take notice. I really don’t intend to sound like a Google fanboy - I’m not. I just don’t seem to experience this, but hear people say this a lot. The attached screenshot seems like a typical result for something I’d look up, and it’s exactly what I’m looking for. In any case, thanks for your perspective. I’m going to try to be more conscious to see if I’m just fooling myself.
I’ve seen a few people mention exactly what you said, so either it’s Google A/B testing some dumb shit, or it’s because you haven’t been using Google the same way I have in the past. I don’t just look for information that is objective, few years back, Google was very good at providing links to articles with steps to do X. Nowadays it always redirects me to sites where words related to X are mentioned the most, rather than providing useful information.
I genuinely can’t trust google results to be true and unbiased anymore. Nowadays I use a combination of google results, reddit results, Quorn results, ChatGPT fever dreams, and dead reckoning.
This is the issue though. I subscribed to chatgpt plus hoping it would do the work for me, but chatgpt (although it understands a lot) still fails to tell me what I need by ‘browsing the web’. I also tried every other known search engine out there but sadly the results are very similar (ddg, bing). So I feel like I’m trapped in a loop where I can’t get out.
