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Looks like I’m testing not using YouTube.

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Yeah, that’ll be hard. I’m trying to use Peertube but network effect is big on YT (not sure if that’s the right expression here, noone is using Peertube, everyone is on YT).

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I’m sending my videos on my Peertube and Youtube. I send the link for Peertube a few days before Youtube, so people following me would have more interest on looking at it on PT earlier but the numbers can’t be beaten : between 5 and 20 views on PT against 1K / 2K on Youtube.

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Whats the link? I though peer tube comments where compatible with lemmy.

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8 points

try odysee, some creators mirror their yt vids there

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14 points

I like Odysee, but there’s a lot of right-wing bullshit on there that give me a major case of cringe.

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3 points

I watch at most 1 video a week. It’s not hard.

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Yeah, that’ll be hard. I’m trying to use Peertube but network effect is big on YT (not sure if that’s the right expression here, noone is using Peertube, everyone is on YT).

There was a time “noone” was on YouTube.

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16 points

It’s past due that we need a new platform.

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We don’t need a new platform. We need 20 new platforms, and authors can post on whichever ones are best for them. Have real competition and real incentive to be better.

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2 points

PeerTube?

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Been using Nebula for a while now. Going to miss some YouTube creators, but I’ll expect to get over it.

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That’ll make youtube disappear for me.

Over the years I watched less and less. I only seldomly have to look into youtube for things that are easier in video than in text.

Teens and many people don’t know that there is a world without ads. They have to be educated that there are alternatives - not watching youtube is a real option. You do not depend on it.

I’s a horrible world many people live in. Recently I saw someone browsing on instagram, each third post is an ad and oftentimes there are ads after ads. And people follow other people and watch their ads. Incredible!

Recently, I was browsing linkedin and there were 12 ads instead of real jobs in a row. in a row. Unrelated to my profession.

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But the point is there’s always been a way to avoid ads, even while browsing sites with ads and browsing YT. Personally, if that ability entirely disappears, i hate ads, ad-voice, and the concept of advertising so much that I will stop and close a whole tab if an ad plays. I’m in the minority though. Because, I think you’re right, a lot of people just don’t even think about it and mindlessly consume. I can’t. When Reddit fucked us and showed us our opinions and feelings didn’t matter, I left. I will do the same to YT.

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I think I hate ads just as much. But I might cave in and start subscribing to premium again. I just stopped because they don’t allow a family plan here in Korea.

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I will just start downloading videos and watching them at my leisure. Anything to not give this corp my money. Funny thing is I use to have no problem watching ads on youtube until they increased the amount and started spamming ads for gambling. There is an option to select on your google account that limits the amount of gambling ads you see. I had that enabled and it felt like it increased the amount of gambling ads it was serving me.

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I just deleted my yt last night. Sent feedback telling them to stop, then deleted it.

I have zero patience for ads

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9 points

I think many people see it as normal/expected.

A coworker showed me a video yesterday on their phone, I said ‘holy hell what is this shit? This is what it looks like for you?’ And opened it in Tubular. They had no idea such a thing existed.

I rarely watch videos because I prefer to read. The people I work with spend a vast amount of their free time watching YouTube and TikTok. They just seem to zone out, or be really interested when an ad comes on.

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I think many people see it as normal/expected.

Yes, that’s it. People born in the early part of last century (my grandparent’s era) only knew over-the-air TV which in the US included commercials. It was just part of reality, like billboards by the highway.

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8 points

The county I live in banned billboards and most outdoor advertising long ago, and it’s NICE

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38 points

I know this is an unpopular opinion but I love YouTube and it really bums me out to have to drop it. My home account has been heavily curated over the past two decades and it’s pretty rare to see a video on my homepage from the shitty part of YouTube…now I’m getting ads and just closing the tab. I have a separate account just for listening to music on my work laptop and I’ve found a ton of new artists through it, too…not sure what I’m gonna do once it starts getting ads, too.

I have a Nebula subscription but only like 1/3 of the channels I watch are on there. And obviously none of the music

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I feel the same way. Or felt. It is a wonderful platform that will let anyone upload and share videos at absolutely no cost. Video hosting isn’t as expensive as we are often lead to believe, but it isn’t cheap. Especially if you want to provide a great experience like different resolutions and qualities.

I used to subscribe to YouTube Premium and was quite happy about it. However they slowly made the platform worse and worse. At some point it hurt to give them money, even if the subscription was “worth it”. I just didn’t like giving money to people destroying a great platform.

Luckily YouTube still supports RSS. This means that I can easily mix in other video platforms with no bother. I now subscribe to Nebula and have 35 subscriptions there. I also have a handful of PeerTube, video podcasts and other self-hosted creators. It isn’t the “majority” of my subscriptions (Apparently I have ~200 YouTube channels that I subscribe to, but a huge number of them are dead, second channels or incredibly infrequent.) but it doesn’t matter. All of my subscriptions come to the same “inbox” and it doesn’t really matter what platform they are on.

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Why don’t you drop the nebula subscription and pay for YouTube premium then? You get rid of the ads and get some extra features and can keep your curated account.

This isn’t a solution for everyone, but those who can afford it could help making YouTube make money and keep it around.

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Because Nebula pays more to the creators. The people who make the videos I watch didn’t make shit on YouTube

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This is where we could use a browser plug in that uses AI to learn what an ad is and skip it for us. Now we just need someone to start working on it.

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Plugins can add controls and it can download videos, but plugins can’t interact with videos directly I think.

Maybe use the Youtube API closed captions and figure out the patterns for ads that way?

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Of course they can interact with it just fine, look at “sponsorblock” plug-in. It would also solve this problem completely. It already exists and works well, it just isn’t “AI” nonsense.

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You are missing the point that sponsorblock only works without AI because everyone gets the same video delivered. Once they have targeted ads of variable length and amount you need someone to watch your specific version of the video and do the tagging where the ads ans sponsors are. You could pay someone to do it for you but that is expensive and very slow. Or you can train a ML model to recognize the patterns and tag it for you hopefully pretty fast.

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Yes, that is adding controls and using a database from the SponsorBlock server.

What I mean is a plugin cannot see the video. Like you can’t write

if(screen == adScreen) {
     then skipToNextSegment();
}

The plugin isn’t reading the video, it is getting info from a database. For AI or machine learning to work ad injection, which might change for every user, doing what SponsorBlock is doing is not enough.

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Thats fine. This just fuels developers to make more efficient ad blockers. Youtube wont win the long game and the more they try stuff like this, the more people find out about ublock and other adblockers.

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uBO and other traditional adblockers can do nothing against embedded ads in YT vids, at least not those in the extension stores. YT won’t permit extensions in the official stores to make useless it’s new policy. The solution can only be in independent sources, that is the problem. In the stores you’ll find only descaffeinated adblockers which blocks only traditional ads on websites. Install, Greasymonkey or Violentmonkey, maybe Tampermonkey and keep an eye on the script repositories.

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