I find it funny how transparent everyone’s pro apple bias is in threads like this. I’m proud to say fuck apple every chance I get because they say fuck users every chance they get. And yes I know because I have them probably $8000 over the course of 10 years or so. I was all in until the iPhone came out and they returned to the “proprietary is the business model” Apple roots.
They don’t even try to embrace standards except in cases where it makes them money. Their entire mo is to erase the existence of standards if a buck can be made off of it. Apple being such anti consumer monopolistic pieces of shit being uncommonly recognized is pathetic and sad, and the perfect example of corporations being a negative influence on society.
There probably are people who died because they couldn’t charge their phone and couldn’t call an ambulance. And no I don’t care about Apple’s security theater or other talking points. All of it is bullshit
RCS is a proprietary standard, but it is not owned or controlled by Google. They just happen to be one of the first major corporations to embrace and implement the standard.
A bunch of carriers implemented it originally, but their implementations were all horribly broken, with messages between carriers usually not working, the carrier-installed messaging apps sucking, etc. Eventually they all dropped it and Google picked up the ashes and “fixed it” by making their server the only one instead of having per-carrier servers like SMS/MMS.
The arrogance, pettiness, and childishness of how Apple treated this announcement is shocking.
Why celebrate a feature that was added for non-customers? Why celebrate a feature they were forced to add rather than chose to? Don’t get me wrong, I think this should have been done long ago, but what’s in it for Apple to waste some of their precious announcement time? The fallback mode of iMessages doesn’t fall back as far? Yay?
Why does it bother you, the presentation is made for investors. Investors want to know if Apple will still be able to compete in the European market and that’s all they really had to show.
The WWDC keynote isn’t an investors meeting, it’s for Apple to talk about their exciting new features that are coming and to prepare developers for what their sessions are going to be about. The announcement was made with little fanfare because it was like a “FYI, your communication with Android devices will be slightly better for them now”
It was originally for developers and press but it’s mostly for investors and press now. They practically never talk about APIs and tooling anymore.
The place users are expected to learn about the products are in ads, on the website, their favorite news outlet, or the apple store. No regular customer even bothers sitting through a 3 hour presentation.
What do you mean added for non customers? The entire purpose of not adding RCS or supporting iMessage for Android devices is to create a worse experience for their customers if they interact with non-customers. Sure it likely drew more people to buy iPhones, but it’s also arguably pretty awful for any society that plays apple’s game rather than just downloading a cross platform app.
Or it’s great for society because they support text for every phone, even feature phones (do those still exist?) and it’s a good business choice for Apple to support more features for their paying customers
The detriment to society came when the standard for text messaging between all phones was updated to support more features and a major manufacturer intentionally didn’t update to drive sales. The US used to heavily punish that sort of behaviour, but in this case it took EU Chinese action to reign in a US company.
Samsung, Google, Sony, and a million other manufacturers could have implemented their own messaging system, but instead they chose to facilitate the use of devices however customers want without punishing them based on the personal preferences of their friends. In some circles people may even choose not to communicate with people who don’t have iPhones or exclude them from group chats which is bad in just about any way you spin it.
Pretty sure they said the exact opposite of that. Judging by every one of your responses in this thread you seriously need to practice your reading comprehension.
It’s much less abstract; more directed, logically laid out and verbose.
So it is actually a useful, constructive discussion piece, instead of your quoted line.
I think this sorta misses the point, at least from my perspective. Nobody cares what phone another person has until they try to send that person a picture or a video that looks like it was sent from 2004.
I know that this is only really a problem in the United States, but that doesn’t make it any less annoying for those who have to deal with it. I have no interest trying to convince my 74 year old mother and a dozen other friends/family members to install a different messaging app on their iPhone so we can send each other videos that aren’t compressed to shit.
Most people with an iPhone just want to use the default messenger cause, frankly, iMessage works and it works really well. You know when that default Messages app doesn’t work well? When you’re forced to use an antiquated technology like SMS/MMS. Apple knows this and banks on it to sell more products. It’s one of many anti-competitive practices they employ.
RCS isn’t a perfect solution, but this is a huge step forward in closing a gap that should’ve been closed a decade ago. Nobody cares what phone another person is using. They do care about having a premium experience with a device they paid $1,000+ dollars for. They’re also ignorant enough to blame a green bubble or the believed cause of that green bubble, which is any device other than an iPhone.
Honestly surprised at the amount of arguing over iPhones and Androids here, its 2024. It’s not that deep.
Seriously, of all things tech news related nowadays, green and blue bubbles are a non-issue. If someone has an issue with it, it’s probably worth not making it your issue as well and just walking/swiping away to find someone else to talk to.
I consistently talk to iPhone users using SMS. Besides from the occasional picture compressed into oblivion, nobody cares enough to even make jokes about the phones we are using. At the end of the day, it’s just a phone.
Of course it’s a whimper, Timmy wants you to buy your mom an iPhone to chat.
That’s it, for Apple the mere mention is already too much. Why would anyone want compatibility if they also just could buy an Apple product?
Also the reason why ipads and Vision don’t support multiple users: not only should you buy an Apple product, but so do your partner, parents, kids, etc.
