Long string of bad decisions have been made.
Since when do RPGs have DMs?
Edit: Come on, y’all don’t play dumb. We all know that there is a difference between an RPG and D&D.
My level 9 party was supposed to fight Fafnir last week, but they spent too much time strategizing before entering the lair that they’re going to fight him today.
they’re epic level, they can probably handle it.
on the other hand, if they fight Szass Tam or Sul Khatesh…
I didn’t think you could fight a deity. I thought only deities could kill others. And aspects were the only things in the monster manual.
Not being able to kill a deity and not being able to fight one are two different things…
True. I guess my point is that there isn’t a statblock for it and you can only encounter an actual deity in their divine domain. But they effectively write the rules of that layer of their plane, or their demi-plane, so it’s kind of wild to try to figure out what they can’t do.
Tiamat might be the only one that’s feasible because she lives on Avernus but doesn’t rule it’ she’s imprisoned in hell. So she can probably only warp the area right around her. But even her aspect’s stat block is CR 30 so who knows how you’d run her.
The problem here is that deities are bound by the plot, not the rules. If your DM tells you “no spell or weapon of mortal make could ever pierce the Queen of Dragons’ hide”, that means there is nothing you can do to hurt her. End of conversation. But, if your DM tells you “only a blade forged by the divine smith Watsisnaim could slay such a mighty foe”, it’s time for a fetch quest.
…I roll to seduce Tiamat.
Or, why I should never be allowed to have a Mythic-level bard. I will gleefully play into the trope, as Austin Powers-like as possible, baby, yeah.
That’s the best way to take a single campaign and make it into a long-running universe. The last multi-year, same-story table I was a part of wound up spanning outwards specifically because one of the players did some shit way back at the end of Campaign #0 to spawn a demigod or two, which resulted in a world-seeding of demis on some Exalted-type shit. I miss it some days.