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A Child is advocating for a Back Surgeon who has made a General Call? Am I reading that right?

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Took me several seconds to parse that sentence as well.

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“Childrens advocates “ have been backing the most egregiously unconstitutional, paternalistic, data broker friendly, moral panic, privacy dystopia bullshit bills around the country. “Childs advocates” are why we have anti pornography pearl clutching panopticon laws that require you to scan a government ID to jerk off. Fuck off with that.

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s/country/world/: FTFY

“Think of the children” is somehow the gotcha for so many of the hard-of-thinking amongst us.

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I agree with all of this.

But this is none of that. This is informing people that the evidence says that excessive social media use does harm, because most people genuinely don’t understand the risks.

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This is a health issue, not a morality issue.

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No, this is old as dirt shits upset that kids exist issue. Sorry Grandpa I won’t turn the music down. Now go fuck off to Florida and play bingo until you die

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There’s no actual science about social media causing health problems like cigarettes.

It’s a politician and state control issue.

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Have those warning labels been shown to work like at all? We already have awareness saturation about just how awful cigarettes are for you.

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Yes. Almost no one smokes in Australia because of them

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Lol no, no one smokes anymore mainly because it’s a taboo and a pack of cigs is so expensive it’s basically impossible to do so on the regular.

The labels don’t do shit.

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How do you think smoking went from something nearly everybody did to being taboo? Maybe the labels don’t do anything for the last 10% of the population who still smoke today, despite the taboo, but those labels played a big role in reinforcing public awareness of the health effects of smoking.

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With the government executing this message to our youth, I think they’ll work as well as the anti-piracy ones back in the day.

You Wouldn’t Steal a Car

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Warnings probably work better on products you’re putting in your body. If you have blackened lungs on the cigarette packaging I can’t imagine choosing to smoke.

On social media, you basically have to destroy my experience for me to stop using it in the same way. All effective options are terrible: ads, microtransactions, auto-playing unexpected sounds, nonresponsive interfaces.

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What do you mean by work? Do they stop everyone from doing stupid things? No. Do they have a measurable effect on behavior? Yes.

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So why don’t we put them on guns?

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We probably don’t want to use the current leader in cause of death for kids as a template for good policy.

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The fact is, with the world we live in being like it is, why the fuck not smoke? For the chance to live a little further into the distopian hellscape of our impending future? Some reward that is for denying myself something I enjoy.

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COPD fucking sucks, my dude. Living longer isn’t the goal, living comfortably is and being unable to breathe all the time is the worst.

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It’s not a great plan to encourage yourself to smoke while expecting a future society with even worse healthcare

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Even if the world becomes a hellscape do you want to meet your maker choking on bits of your own lungs or breathing normally?

That is why you shouldn’t smoke. Lung cancer and COPD are not things you want to deal with if you want to do anything remotely physical later in life.

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You would have to be an absolute moron to think smoking only kills you early. That’s not how it works.

Even if you don’t like the world around you today and aren’t enthusiastic about the future, the way smoking kills you makes your day to day worse until you eventually get a very painful day to day until you eventually give out and die. You are advocating slowly committing both expensive and painful suicide over a 30 year span because you don’t want to live for 40 more years.

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These comments are a good reminder of how dumb many people here are. Good temperature check

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John Perry Barlow was right

https://www.eff.org/cyberspace-independence

Is there any hope at all left that governments might one day leave us on the Internet in peace?

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I once wished for this, especially back in the days when there were next to no laws regarding it, but there’s zero chance as the money and attention has moved to it. There’s political capital in demonising online discourse.

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I don’t get why people think this idea is equivalent to stuff like internet access bans or COPPA, it’s a warning label, not an “enter your ID” to access page.

They never banned cigarettes, but putting a giant warning on the box did help in vilifying cigarettes as very unhealthy and wrong.

I doubt it’ll go anywhere in this age of government, but its exactly the type of thing I would have gone for if I were tasked with solving a societal issue. It’s smart because it has no real effect on access, so social media companies would have a harder time fighting it, but it also gives a big bloody warning which does have a substantial psychological impact on users.

iirc someone did something similar with a very simple “are you sure?” app that gave a prompt asking if you were sure you wanted to post something or send a text. Just having a single prompt was enough for many people to reconsider their stupid text or comment.

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