Everyone who’s into the fediverse concept should read this article.
I’m really happy to see so many people posting this article. While I was a little annoyed at first, I realized that it’s better overall to see this popping up everywhere.
If you haven’t read this yet, It’s great for understanding the upcoming challenges the Fediverse will face.
I had just found that it appears an instance only pulls posts/comments from when their first member subscribes. Even after subscribing any and all comments/posts remain missing for that instance.
This is something that I hope is improved, along with the above mentioned concerns.
Boost things.
Things here get pushed from publishers to subscribers and their servers, and boosting is basically a way of republishing things.
Communities are, in some significant way, bots that boost anything that they see, and they see anything that mentions them, or that is in reply to anything that mentions them. Lemmy and kbin just hide the “To:” field of thr message, which is where the community bot (or “group actor” in Fediverse technical lingo). Boosting things that mention the community bot also triggers the not to boost it in turn, which sends it out to everyone following the bot.
Including newer users.
I agree. I understand it’s a lot of data to pull, but even a status bar that can be checked on it’s own page would be a help for people to understand why their comments/posts aren’t showing up/why the stats are unbalanced.
Also interesting, Apple implemented XMPP in its messaging app way long ago and pulled support a few years back.
When people insist that Apple needs to implement Google’s new secure messaging stack for better interoperability with Android, I wonder if they are thinking back to XMPP and saying “Yeah, fooled us once…”
Agreed. I was thinking about reposting it in my little magazine and thought that was overkill. But now I’m re-thinking it …
The population doesn’t care about the technology. If we make social media about activitypub more than it is about social media and connecting people - we’ll be shooting our own foot off no mater what meta or anyone does.
Instances and fediverse are great because of the mods, admins and people. Activitypub is the protocol and it’s an open web standard. We should expect web standards and join them but remember the product isn’t the protocol - it’s connecting people
i for one look forward to bridging to p92 and showing them what great communities can be like.
I have no plans to support p92 precisely because it’s going to “push” users together as a commodity. What Meta has jurisdiction over is not its communities but rows of data - in the same way that Reddit’s admins have conflicted with its mods, it is inherently not organized in such a way that it can properly represent any specific community or their actions.
So the cost-benefit from the side of extant fedi is very poor: it won’t operate in a standard way, because it can’t, and the quality of each additional user won’t be particularly worth the pain - most of them will just be confused by being presented with a new space, and if the nature of it is hidden from them it will become an endless misunderstanding.
If a community using a siloed platform wants to federate, that should be a self-determined thing and they should front the effort to remain on a similar footing to other federated communities. The idea that either side here inherently wants to connect and just “needs a helping hand” is just wrong.
You’re not thinking broad enough.
Meta joining and be successful means Reddit has to think about federating or not being successful.
Wordpress is going to have all their blogs on activitypub soon. Tumblr says they’re joining - Mozilla is hirring product and developers to build out their platform.
Also, Meta is a multi billion dollar company - they know how to do UI/UX - they can spend their investment/R&D on solving problems we can’t and we can be nice and welcoming to the users who show curiosity.
It’s a shame we’re too short sighted to see opportunity here. We really have nothing to lose since it’s not like meta will suck all the haters back in
Meta’s attempt to fill the twitter void. At one time it was going to be called Barcelona, but now it’s apparently going to be called Threads. Coming to a Fediverse near you later this summer.
I hate that name, it’s too generic and is going to eat up into other matters that use the word threads. This is going to be annoying.
Interesting article. I’m still pretty new to the concept off federation but I’ll keep an eye out for these kinds of takeovers in the future.
These have been going on for a long time, the author kinda makes a mention to it, with a reference to MS’s long playbook of “Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish”. IE’s growth, MS breaking Java, Office dominance; all had examples from that playbook. While MS hasn’t used it that much now compared to the past, don’t trust any Big Tech company to not do it when the opportunity presents itself.
Meta has already tried it with Instagram stories after the success of Snapchat. The possibility of them attempting it with federated platforms after what appears to be two migrations to the Fediverse (one from Twitter and the other from Reddit) is definitely there, especially given Meta’s reputation.
What I can do is only to post my activity to fedi instances with fun, even if fedi will win/lose.
Don’t get on the popularity game.
Just make fun and keep yourself healthy.