Seems like they are under attack again, will those people never stop? I feel sorry for the admin team.

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This is why we need users to spread to more servers and create communities in them. If lemmy.world goes down that shouldn’t result in half of lemmyhub disappearing.

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Yes! I tried with a niche topic like fallout but can’t get people to move over from the Lemmy world community.

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was there already a fallout community on lemmy.world?

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Yeah. Very inactive so I shouldn’t be surprised no one came to mine on sopuli.xyz

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I’m more of a commenter and less of a poster, but I moved away from world as my primary instance last week. Part to spread the load, part to just be able to browse.

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Commenting on your comment not because I expect you to have them or anything, it’s just the top comment so hopefully someone sees this. I know there’s a handful of links out there to browse instances. Are there any that can see who’s defederated with who/ which instances are federated with the most instances? I had another account on a .ml domain instance but they got purged with a bunch of others a couple of weeks ago. I use my lemmy.world account because it has the most-ish reach for finding new communities and whatnot

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You can have a look at my comment here: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/1603292

Usually https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list is a good resource

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Currently no, there isn’t a way to see that granular of detail. On my instance I have details about any defederated (blocked) instances. Currently there are none.

But there are pros and cons of joining smaller server. Since mine is small we don’t see a large list of communities, I make a point to go through and subscribe to a bunch everyday so my users can get the best experience. But without others doing some of the leg work it can be challenging. Bigger instances like lemmy.world have “seeded” with communities all over because of their large user base. Not only does lemmy.world have a ton of communities but their users have subscribed to communities outside the instance making it discoverable to others.

https://lemmyverse.net/ https://browse.feddit.de/

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Unless you want to see porn or troll instances, I don’t think there’s a big difference between instances except for the fact that beehaw isn’t federated with lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works

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There’s a posposal for an automatic user distribution system (original post here: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726). Showing support for it would be a big help!

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Glad I’m realizing this before getting too attached to any one account. Setting up on a few instances now.

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There are tools to migrate subs/blocks

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Any recommendations? Would love to sync my lemmy.world subs to some other accounts

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Getting attached to any account is not recommended. Hopefully most are pretty set but I know personally if I was too run into financial trouble I would shut it down. Bigger instances do get some amount of patrons who donate to them.

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And it’s back up again! Kudos to the team!

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Down again it seems. People seriously need to switch away from lemmy.world. Every single time it goes down so much content goes down with it. It’s annoying.

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I did this early on after realizing my mistake, promptly moved to vlemmy.net which after a couple weeks went totally mia.

Moved again… It’s a toss-up though. I want an instance big enough to stay updated, and have an active community, but not turn into .world or vlemmy.

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You should be safe on infosec.pub, jerry is a great admin

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It’s working now. Indeed, I hope they will.

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Because they’re on lemdro.id as lemmy provider, not lemmy.world. That’s the @ part in the user name.

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I recommend people move away from Lemmy.world. Having ~28% of Lemmy users on a single instance is not good for the health of Lemmy overall.

For those that want to move to a different instance, here is a link to Lemmy instances sorted by user count: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

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Is there an easy way to move all my subscriptions over?

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We’re not allowed to have nice things.

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Thankfully, other instances are still up and allow us to talk about it.

Back in the days, when Reddit or Twitter were down, it was down for the whole userbase.

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Yes, and we can do something about our own instances. Depending on your reverse proxy there’s a couple options.

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Definitely!

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how? I just use Sync for Lemmy and it seems like everything is down when lemmy.world is. I don’t really know how Lemmy works, or where different things I subscribe to are based.

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Your account is on lemmy.world, so it fails to get any and all data. Accounts on other instances can interact with historic data.

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You have to think of lemmy.world as your lemmy provider. Just like with e-mail you have your own email provider from the ISP, or gmail, or … If your own provider is down, you can’t receive or send mails, but all other people can send mails to each other. It’s the same with lemmy, but then for reading posts and send comments to that instance/provider.

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Have a look at this comment: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/1603292

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Nice things cost money and I don’t have it. So, checks out.

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The company running lw are asking for free unpaid 150k+a year admin work.

Fuck them. Someone run this personally and start a non profit.

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Lots of options besides the one instance.

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75 points

Those guys can’t catch a break. By whom or why are they getting attacked anyway?

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then it got DDoSed and spammed with CP until everyone forgot about it?

You sure that’s not because it first gained popularity after Reddit banned the jailbait sub?

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VOAT had a reputation of being for the reddit rejected users. The worst of the worst of #conservative.

It was not a pleasant place to lurk.

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Ya, I’d been looking for a decent alternative forever. Tried to scratch the itch there but man it was bad. Just infested with neonazi pedos to the nth degree.

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Probably by some ground against the Fediverse or lemmy specifically.

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This single post :
https://lemmy.world/post/2874044
https://lemmy.ca/post/2904207
…has a comment from an hexbear user who thinks this is very funny. (hidden from here because we defederated them)

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You’re saying hexbear users are responsible?

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We sustained an attack right after their defederation, I have no proof now, maybe time will tell.

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thats not communism, thats red painted bullshit. please DO ~defederate from whatever the hell that is.~ remove trolls using false flags.

my idiot self's old comment

within these people are a sort of poison, one that entrenches them in their symbols and attack others with pride, like an idiot. the (alt? and regular?) right uses these losers and their corrupted ideas and flag clutching as ammunition (for example, against Trans folk).

Edit: I was using a hammer when i nedded a scalpel. Generally dont like my rant written in anger. To be clear, Waving a communist or trans flag and then being a narcisist in public. It is either a false flag or an idiot. Result is a useful addition to a news media’s hyperreality.

Edit: i am REALLY unhappy with this comment, i fail by leaving whats implied unsaid. A natural observer given a big name like CNN saying things is always at risk of treeting the whole movement like a tom and jarry cartoon. Antifa usually gets a bad reputation, is it warrented? I dont know because the news is designed to let you make short and usually wrong assumptions. One commenter was right, you fight the news by looking out the window and seeing the negbors arent loonitics and in fact rather lovely.

Edit: i am still REALLY unhappy with this comment, also spelling I cant really speak on these issues as I need guidance more than answers. I have been told to not worry about the propaganda machine (my old and current psychological trap) and to rather be free of it and to free others by showing them a better place. I was merely dragging people into the machine I sought to destroy. for this I am sorry.

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The good old: “Actually people supporting trans are doing the right a service!”

Pity that hexbear is a bastion of trans posters, which means you are effectively saying: “Trans people are (used by) right wing people as ammunition!” which is right, but right wingers do weaponize everything. There is no way to behave nice enough to complacence them.

I have yet to find a post in your profile in which you do write public support for our trans comrades 🏳️‍⚧️. I doubt you will, but even if you do it it will remain performative unless you repeat it online, amplify trans voices and start to support your LGBTQ community in your meat space. However since you have no positive comment in the last month it is clear that you are objectively not supporting trans rights, since your only mention is how a group you disagree with - which itself does support trans rights - is hurting trans folk. to the audience Raise your hands if that does sound transphobe to you.

The X are poison is a very common fascist talking point that is actually a verbatim quote of not only that, but Nazi propaganda.

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the (alt? and regular?) right uses these losers and their corrupted ideas and flag clutching as ammunition (for example, against Trans folk).

The local org that helps connect trans people with resources like housing and medical care is mostly made up of and run by ML’s. The idea that fascists would be kinder to trans people if ML’s stopped existing is ahistorical nonsense.

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Man hexbear is such a shit show. When chapotraphouse was a sub I was on there near 24/7 for like 2 years, and it was the best online experience I’ve ever had. Then they migrated over to hexbear and it’s like only the worst, most self righteous people from the community moved over. I’m literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin, and I got called a reactionary and told to kill myself and then a mod agreed with them and banned me for a week over a blatantly pro trans comment that apparently wasn’t pro trans in the right way. Like it literally said “trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with their body, I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me” and like 5 people were like “you ‘don’t care’ about trans people? Do the world a favor and fucking kill yourself, you’re literally butchering trans comrades with your comment”

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It literally kills me when people say literally when they mean figuratively.

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I’m literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin

So you don’t count people you know online, you also don’t go to organizing union meetings, are not part of collectives and not part of a real left party (thus are likely an individualist, moralist, idealist liberal who will often - since there is little self critique and reflection - for example having thought how you could integrate parts of being anti racist in your life within a group). Of course you might be called a reactionary in some cases. Feel free to link to them, post those opinions in the un-safe space we got here as quote and people can do reflect on that. Taking your quote (which likely ignores context to present yourself in a better light) I have to say that:

trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want" (good) "***********************” (bad)

Yeah that is reactionary. You were rightfully banned as you broke server rules. There were enough campaigns i.e. “Read Trans Liberation!” for you to educate yourself. You didn’t. You are not the victim here.

To break it down: You went into a space of solidarity and then climbed on a chair and yelled “I don’t care about [group you are supposed to be having a minimum degree of solidarity with]”. Everyone is able to understand that this is even if it is your uncle’s birth date and you would yell that you don’t care about your uncle it is a social faux pas. However what you did is much worse.

The website’s slogan at that point even was “We love our trans comrades!”

Besides:

and told to k**l m***lf and then a mod agreed with them

X: [Doubt]

You already showed yourself to be an unreliable narrator, no reason to believe such an extraordinary claim.

Edit Wonder who downvotes this post

Edit2:

CW in effect transphobia commited in a save space, with multiple repeating posts and comments and an unwillingness to see the perspectives of others, this is the context of what OP did post:

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Is the constantly talking about being trans in leftist spaces not also fueling the over focus on trans people? removed by mod posted by fawx [he/him] to askchapo •

So no one thinks I’m a troll, I completely support trans people doing whatever the fuck they want with their bodies. And I don’t mind seeing trans stuff. But with that said, I feel like the hundreds and hundreds of posts I see about trans people is not helping. Going off like this site and a few others I browse you’d think trans people are like 40% of people instead of more like 2%.

I feel like constantly putting them in the spotlight, even to say you support them is just contributing to this “trans awareness burnout” I hear about in a lot of my non-leftist conversations.

I heard things similar to that within the spoiler during the 80s when I did attend gay meetups, protests and LGBTQ* representation in media became slightly more common (while what we did was still criminal in many places). Turns out I wasn’t gay btw. I was bi (and that includes trans people as bi is defined as having attraction to more than one owns gender) and still am, but was, too. However the gay spaces were the spaces which enabled me to be myself and not the eternal cycle of “this is too much progress for the [women/black people/jews/italians/gays/insert minority/marginalized group of your choice]! they would progress more if they would be silent and try to pass as cis white evangelical hetero who eat meat and drink beer in unhappy marriages!”

fawx has the capacity to change and act different, as well as to not slander thousands of users with re-tellings of stuff that didn’t happen like that and which minimizes their actions (which is understandable human, but it remains wrong. I do understand the emotional feeling of giving somebody a wipe as fawx did try to do with depicting hexbear as bad for excluding him for no reason - and the willing audience of people taking that for a fact instead of doing their due dilligence). Still the burden is on fawx to read, speak, listen and not primarily center themselves. If they are actually in the union they have enough ways to grow (attending IWW and other fighting unions organizing meetups and summer schools for example).

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Would be pretty sick if they effected us. Like a trans person comes around the corner and suddenly fireworks go off and glowsticks get handed out

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Man, I’m happy I’m not the only one who feels like this. I had such a good time in the chapotraphouse sub and never forgave reddit for banning it. None of the offspring from there could really capture what made this sub special, the hexbear thing certainly can’t.

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Like it literally said “trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with their body, I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me” and like 5 people were like “you ‘don’t care’ about trans people?

This is why I keep quiet on issues like that, someone will always say you are wrong for not having their exact opinion and wording. Had a similar thing when I said a 5 year old boy can wear a dress without being a girl, just let them do what they want.

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Understandable since one is a government funded :fedbposting: psyop running on servers in the basement of the FBI building. The other is Reddit.

Ayyyyyyy.

Was the joke. If you take that as proof that that user and hexbear as aggregate are responsible you might need to breath a bit and do learn to be more critical of media. People making jokes about you(r misfortune) aren’t always out to get you.

To explain the joke:

dot world having a harder time with de federating Fascist propaganda (exploding heads and alike, while keeping their users) than with pre emptively doing a US centric Red scare and McCarthyism is quite funny and something the intelligence agencies of the US had in their hand books for over half a century. It is also often the action of liberals who think civility is more important that positive justice.

However lets say a piece or two about @A_A@lemmy.world, they are close to conspiracy thought sometimes.

Join “Lemmy.world” ; here you can create your own communities 🙂

Respect and thanks to the creators of lemmy-software, pretty sure they have friends (states) with big pockets 😆 !

Yeah, cause FOSS means evil communist governments secretly funding open source software.

They also regularly lie and misconstrue what people say.

All in all the user is a good example how liberal moderation policy (or the lack of them) leads to gray and black propaganda and spheres that are not emancipatory.

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This is for fun you should know. “friend state” hypotesis is a bit farfetch but :
if it was false we wouldn’t know either.
if it was true (maybe) it would be a global positive contribution from (Russia? China?). Also please notice the comment_link you provided (to one of my comments?) does not work at the moment because of a problem with lemmy.world servers.

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this whole chain of comments makes no sense!

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I saw a comment that mentioned there was a user that was creating tons of communities and squatting on them. That user was called out and banned and they might be behind it. But its all rumours. Does anyone have more details on this rumour?

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Probably by some group against the Fediverse or lemmy specifically.

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It’s been this way for weeks, actually. I haven’t seen a graph of the uptime, but I’m sure one would look extremely ugly, based on my own user experience.

This right here is an alt, and despite the fact that I don’t prefer to comment from it, since I won’t necessarily check in soon to see replies, it’s seeing some heavy use.

The attacks a few weeks ago weren’t a one-off, they never stopped. It seems down maybe half the time or so?

One of the many ways we (all of Lemmy) are not quite ready for the mainstream yet, we still have basic technical/security issues to resolve. Soon, though.

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96.4 uptime

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Isn’t it 88 based on their own status page? https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world

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If either of those figures is actually accurate from an end-user standpoint, then the entire downtime must be coming during my primary periods of usage.

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The last 7 days yeah. I was looking here https://lemmy-world.statuspage.io/

96.3 now.

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