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Most companies were going to at least return to a hybrid model. To think all companies would be 100% remote work is insane

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It’s insane to think the loss of remote work is inevitable. My current job is in the beginnings of turning us hybrid and it’s causing talent loss. Our jobs are functionally the same even when sitting in a cubicle because everything we do is still done “remotely”. We still have to login to the VPN, access remote desktops, use browser based systems, communicate via email, etc. Even meetings with upper management are done through teams, because it’s just EASIER to do.

The only thing we gain from going in is the occasional donut.

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That’s not insane it’s how people have worked since the birth of the modern office over 109 years. To think an extreme circumstance such as COVID was going to force all of these big companies to be remote forever is insane. The power would eventually go back to employers. And unfortunately not enough workers across all industries unionized so the employee power is gone again. I’m lucky I get 3 days in office and 2 days at home. Honestly I’ll take that over 5 days in office like pre-Covid

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So many roles can be fully remote. My job requires me I’m the office maybe 3 times a year. Why does that need to be hybrid?

The only ones pushing for this are the corporation’s bleeding out money in real estate rental costs.

When COVID hit and the lockdowns followed, I began working from home. They’ve asked for people to return to their offices and I’ve refused. I’m more productive at home and have a better work/life balance.

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2 points

If it’s all about real estate costs, we’ll return to remote when leases are up. Do you think that’ll happen? Not a chance.

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1 point

My job requires me I’m the office maybe 3 times a year. Why does that need to be hybrid?

At this point, you are already in an hybrid situation: why do you think that “hybrid” only means “x days a week” and maybe not something like “every time I need” (be it 3 days a week or 3 days a year) ?

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5 points

Booooo!

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22 points

They want that 50 mile radius salary market. Competing with the entire country is expensive.

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1 point

My orgs secret is being based in Seattle

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10 points

Please explain. My intuition suggests the opposite. The company’s office is in San Jose. Presumably they have to pay high local market wages to retain workers. If they could hire remote workers willing to accept Peoria lL market wages they could conceivably get the same value of labor at lower cost.

20 years ago companies didn’t demand local workers to staff their call centers to avoid competing with the entire world. They did the opposite, contracting out to the lowest bidders overseas and firing staff in the global north.

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Good point. I didn’t think to look at where they’re located, and was just going off of some conversations I’ve had lately with some friends who work for Target which is based in Minneapolis, and has recently tried to end remote work as well.

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9 points

Just before the new covid wave nobody is vaccinated against. Nice.

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10 points

Is this news I’ve missed?

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4 points

EG.5, variant of omicron

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35 points

This is the best summary I could come up with:


At that time, Zoom chief financial officer Kelly Steckelberg cited an internal survey showing that about 85 percent of employees who work remotely “want it to stay that way.”

It’s still unclear why Zoom settled on a 50-mile radius as its requirement for returning to the office, whether employees can seek exemptions, or if performance reviews will depend on in-office attendance, ComputerWorld reported.

But Business Insider reported that market value has since dropped by at least $100 billion, mostly because so many companies over the past two years began requiring workers to return to the office.

Zoom’s spokesperson said that with more workers in the office, “as a company, we are in a better position to use our own technologies, continue to innovate, and support our global customers.”

Yuan said on an earnings call that building up Zoom’s AI capability is a priority, ComputerWorld reported, and it’s possible it has become an all-hands-on-deck situation.

The future will tell if pivoting to AI and requiring the majority of employees to return to the office are other mistakes for Zoom or necessary business moves.


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44 points

That’s a good way to lose all your top talent.

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33 points

Don’t let it fool you, they’ll make exceptions to the rule for the ones they want to keep. This is just a way to make their “worst” performers miserable so they quit instead of laying them off. All the shit tech companies are doing it.

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This really depends. You would think that a company would know who it’s top performers are, but if you are engineer who is more than two managers away from C suite, chances are the person who decides to end your job doesn’t know or give a shit who you are, they just know that your salary is among the higher end. If a company wants to attract top talent they can always do so later

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As a datapoint from the other side, my company (big tech) is holding the party line no matter what. Lower level engineer or director - if you don’t come in the requisite number of days a week, you’re out. It’s a bafflingly short-sighted move, but company culture is more important than anything apparently.

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16 points

It’s just sunk cost fallacy on office space.

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19 points

You don’t have to waste people’s time and burn gas in traffic to foster a meaningful company culture. This is just about management egos needing to feel important, and always has been.

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