174 points

The tone here is surprisingly negative. Personally I’m happy with the efforts of the Flathub team 🤷

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As a newer Linux user I really like flatpaks.

I don’t use them for most things I install but proprietary apps I want sandboxed or programs that have weird issues with dependencies I grab the flatpak.

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For me on Arch, Flatpaks are kinda useless. I can maybe see the appeal for other distros but Arch already has up-to-date versions of everything and anything that’s missing from the main repos is in the AUR.

I also don’t like how it’s a separate package manager, they take up more space, and to run things from the CLI it’s flatpak run com.website.Something instead of just something. It’s super cumbersome compared to using normal packages.

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I also prefer to get my software from the distro’s repos, but for software from third parties, flatpak adds a security layer, making it more secure when compared, for example, to aur.

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Can you please elaborate on the security layer that flatpak adds? Some commentators here suggest Flathub is not secure.

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3 points

fwiw those simple names exist, you just haven’t added it to your PATH

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14 points

Lemmy (and phoronix) people are generally extremely repelled by new stuff in the Linux world

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Lemmy people are generally extremely repulsive.

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13 points

Agreed, flatpaks are great for desktop apps. I use Nix for the majority of my packages, but I use flatpak for proprietary for the sandboxing.

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I honestly prefer Ansible. It can do lots of configuration and setup and install flatpaks.

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I honestly prefer Ansible.

I use Ansible all day. For work. Oh, god, is it sad compared to everything else in the space. RedHat had the choice between two in-house products and they chose poorly.

It can do lots of configuration and [set up] and install flatpaks.

We had that 20 years ago, just with a different product. The state of the art is now two generations newer.

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50 points

Lol, what a pointless map.
It’s impossible to tell at a glance which countries have more or less downloads, other than a couple of countries with a slightly lighter colour.

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Yeah, they could have applied a logarithm or something.

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12 points

And included a legend, such as a colour bar

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6 points

Also, no novelty - strong reject, no revision possible 🙂‍↔️

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45 points

North Korea: 316 downloads

Interesting…

In all seriousness, in both my home country and the country I live in, the number of downloads surpasses the population numbers which is kinda insane.

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I think they count every download of every package, every version, every time. It’s not the number of unique users or even packages.

If you install 3 apps you might need to download 3 versions of graphics driver, 3 versions of desktop environment libraries and so on, It won’t count as one user installing 3 apps, it will show up as 10 -20 downloads. And that’s just the initial install, every time you update them it counts another 10-20.

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It could be simple download requests, rather than MAC or IP address downloads.

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8 points

It is per download not per person.

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Oh wow, a lot of people use it in countries with a lot of people!

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Except that the download numbers don’t correspond at all with the population numbers.

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2 points

Only Brazil is there because it has a big population.

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5 points

Pet peeve #209: implying DFW has a bigger furry scene than Austin. For some reason I doubt that.

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@Gigachad already mentioned it

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looks at India and China

I’m not seeing it.

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36 points

I’d prefer to see downloads per country per capita.

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Right? “Oh look, country with huge population has more downloads than country with small population!”

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