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Is he entitled to US arm shipments?

The headline makes him sound pretty fucking entitled

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As probably the most active mutual defense ally of the US, military aid has been shipped to Israel multiple times a year for almost a century, so it doesn’t seem voluntary anymore.

Spoiled, more than entitled.

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When they paid for it…

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Did they?

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In general, they get grants of cash from the US which they are required to use to “purchase” from US suppliers more or less any weapons (with few export restrictions). We’re giving them weapons but they still get to pick out what they think they need. This is a pretty good overview which seems like it’s mainly missing:

  • The fact that congress authorizes aid, and then the White House is generally responsible for actually sending it. That’s important in cases like the most recent aid package congress passed, which Biden is at least partially simply deciding not to provide, which he is more or less able to do (the “more or less” is complicated and I don’t really understand it).
  • A detailed breakdown of what shipments got “paused” and what aid has actually been delivered since then. Presumably, the White House is able to keep the details of this information secret. Currently, Netanyahu is claiming that they’re cutting off a lot of shipments they should be giving, and the White House is claiming that that’s wrong and they’ve been delivering aid as normal (and as far as I know not saying how much that is); it would be nice to know the detail of what’s being sent and who is lying (although I have a theory).
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Aid is a gift. They paid for some of it.

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Give them a refund.

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I’m not sure if he’s trying to help biden… you know… by making it sound like Biden actually did the right fucking thing here and cut off the genocidal maniac… or trying to fuck biden; because we all know that Biden will ship harder for Netty-Boo

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because we all know that Biden will ship harder for Netty-Boo

Don’t forget your fight is also with the House of Representatives now. Biden did stop shipping some weapons to Israel and Congress forced the shipments of weapons to start again.

“House passes bill to undo Biden’s partial Israel weapons hold”

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Tried to force. That bill was blocked by Democrats in the senate and Biden issued a veto theat to it.

But your point still stands that Netanyahu in no way wants Biden to win this fall. He’s not coming to speak to congress and generally shit all over everything again to help Biden.

Heck, Trump admin people are already doing Nixon style foreign policy interference with Netanyahu ahead of the election.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/20/world/middleeast/trump-officials-israel-netanyahu.html

Or doing it again rather.

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/7/19/15994924/nixon-trump-vietnam-russia-historical-parallels

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It has yet to pass the Senate, and Biden said he would veto it.

Of course, Biden is still swearing to everyone that he is still sending shipments except for the one that he paused because of Rafah, and that he plans to keep doing it. And, his administration conducted an investigation which somehow managed to conclude that they “may have” been committing war crimes but that it’s not clear enough that we would have to stop shipping them weapons or anything which we would be legally obligated to do if they “conclusively” were doing anything criminal.

Fuckin assholes

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If you think Netanyahu a revisionist Zionist in any way wants to help Joe Biden you are out of your mind. Anyone who thinks a literal fascist would ever back someone even mildly Progressive is nuts. Oh he’ll use Joe Biden and the rest of the Democrats, but Netanyahu throughout his entire life has been very clear about which American party he prefers.

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He’s trying to make Biden think he’s trying to help him. Everyone knows Israel wants Trump.

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I hope that’s true.

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I sure don’t want U.S. weapons going to genocide an entire people, but I also doubt Netanyahu’s assertion.

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He can call customer service and wait on hold to complain like the rest of us

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GOOD

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