The president often had a weak, raspy voice during his first debate against Trump, in what Democrats had hoped would be a turning point in the race.

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The conspiracy theorists all say Joe is supposed to step down and Gavin Newsom somehow is added to the ticket which then will win. These conspiracy theorists also say that candidates are selected in advance by the powers that be and it’s all pagentry to deceive the gullible masses. Try to look surprised when he gets replaced and they add Gavin.

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This whole night was so many layers of exhausting, but probably not for the reasons you think… No rational, serious person was expecting Biden to Willy Wonka front somersault into this debate? it was going to be what this was, the only true surprise was probably the volume of his voice (which they chalk up to a cold, okay fine, I guess) and actually how well he did quickly processing and responding to trump’s gish gallop and unchecked stream of consciousness mistruth firehose with little help from the impotent moderators for the majority of the night.

The people in this country, in their immediate reaction to this debate, demonstrate that they just fundamentally lack the focus, empathv and frankly basic intelligence to process the substance of this or any debate. On average, we respond solely to voice pitch, tonality, body language and facial expressions, like a still developing toddler… Or a dog.

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On average, we respond solely to voice pitch, tonality, body language and facial expressions, like a still developing toddler… Or a dog.

And so knowing that, the DNC should have put somebody up who appeals to those… dogs.

Like, obviously the smart decision is to vote for Biden anyway, but fuck me if they aren’t making this November win, what should be a slam dunk against a fascist, the most difficult in recent history.

If Trump wins, the DNC owes us blood.

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Or a gorilla, but I think a gorilla is too much credit.

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He seems like he’s doing a-ok today. Wtf???where was this guy last night?? https://youtu.be/eWylhLOPk8c?si=E5uZIHS15XQ_TKma

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Jesus effing Christ, if this huge difference in energy was down just to some misfortunate cold at the time of the debate, it would be one of the most unfortunate timings. I don’t know if Trump would agree to a second debate now that he’s reaped some positives (or more like negatives for Biden), and also on another network that does any fact-checking. So sadly this failed debate might turn to be a pivotal point for the election.

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They forgot to give him his stims last night /s

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Without reading this- I’m going to say…… no, it didn’t.

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I find it ironic when the Left says “I don’t care if Biden is senile and incoherent, I’ll still vote for him!” no one cares… But, when the Right says “I don’t care that Trump is being charged with all these different things, I’ll still vote for him!” they’re idiots… funny how that works on Lemmy and Reddit…

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The system leaves us with a binary choice. Even the third “option” of inaction is essentially leaving it up to fate at best, and at worst is just handing the controls over.

The room you’re in is sealed, filling with water, and you can access a snorkel or a fire hydrant.

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I don’t care if Biden is senile and incoherent,

There is not a big overlap between what skills a candidate needs and what skills a president needs. 99% of the job of president is to make decisions. That’s the job. Even if he lost his voice entirely and was in a wheel chair like FDR, he could still make excellent decisions. President Biden absolutely killed it for 2 hours at the state of the union speech. Nobody who was “senile” could have done that.

I’ll still vote for him!”

Have you not been paying attention to current events? The country is at a critical junction between democracy and neofascism. OF COURSE I’m going to vote for the continuation of democracy. Anybody who does not would be an idiot. I would vote for a literal corpse over Convicted Criminal and Sex Offender Treason Trump.

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Neofascism an overrated word thrown around by the Left. That’s like me saying that the Democrats are going to turn our country into socialism, when we know that’s not true. We heard all these things before, how horrible the country would be if Trump got elected, the “end of democracy”…and yet, under Trump none of those things happened. Both sides use scare tactics, the Democrats are no better.

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when we know that’s not true.

NO NO NO NO NO!!!

Dude both Democrats and Republicans still loyal to America are scared to death that Traitorapest Trump is going be the end of democracy.

WHY WOULD LYNNE CHENEY THROW HER CAREER AWAY IF SHE DIDN’T REALIZE TRUMP IS TRYING TO OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY??

WHY WOULD ADAM KINZINGER THROW HIS CAREER AWAY IF HE DIDN’T REALIZE TRUMP IS TRYING TO OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY??

Why did Trump’s Vice President, Sec of State, 2 Attorneys General, National Security Adviser – ALL REPUBLICANS – warn us that Trump is a threat to democracy.

Trump ordered an attack against America on Jan 6, 2001. The previous 2 months he spent every single day trying to figure out a way to overturn the election and disenfranchise millions of Americans. ONLY A POWER MAD NEOFASCIST WOULD DO THAT. There is overwhelming evidence that Trump knew he lost on election night and Steve Bannon admitted on audio tape before the election that Trump was going to lie “and say they stole it”.

Every time Loser Trump loses an election or a court case he slanders our country and attacks our core values of democracy and the rule of law.

He admitted he would be a dictator “on day one”.

He promised to abuse the justice system to go after political enemies.

He threatened to “pull the license” of news media that criticize him.

He tried to blackmail Ukraine to interfere in our elections.

He cooperated fully with Putin to interfere in our elections.

That’s like me saying that the Democrats are going to turn our country into socialism, when we know that’s not true.

Because there is no evidence for that whatsoever. With Treason Trump we have overwhelming evidence of his complete contempt for our longstanding core values of democracy and the rule of law.

Trump’s action’s between election day and Jan 6 ABSOLUTELY DISQUALIFY HIM from holding office. All Republicans who still support Treason Trump ARE SUPPORTING THE END OF DEMOCRACY.

TRUMP KNOWS THAT IF DOESN’T OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY THEN HE IS GOING TO PRISON.

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Because one of these wants to destroy democracy and the right of many people to even exist.

But tell me again how the tangerine terror isn’t going to corrupt everything…

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How did Trump destroy democracy when he was president? How horrible was your life? What freedoms did you lose when Trump was President? Again, scare tactics from the Left that we’ve been hearing for years now… I’m old enough to remember when they said the same shit about Bush Jr…

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“said the same shit about Bush Jr…”

And would you trust a government run by a bush, a dick, and a colon?

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One of these things is not like the other…

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