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I am a little biased because I’ve been using Debian professionally for many years now but we don’t deserve Debian. It is fantastically stable and reliable and makes an excellent platform for running your services off of. If you are at all interested in offering some time and energy to the open source community, consider adopting a Debian package!

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I’m thinking about a Linux laptop with FOSS software for my business actually, Lemmy’s relentless horde of pro-Linux propaganda has won me over

(OK I’ve always liked FOSS I’ve just never taken the jump)

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ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

but seriously, modern FOSS distros (yes, debian is modern, damnit!) are amazingly good. you have an exceptionally high probablility of switching and staying switched.

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I’m looking forward to it!

Side note: anyone got recommendations for business software? I’ve started browsing the FOSS community here for ideas but I’m not sure what QuickBooks alternatives exist

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6 points

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

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7 points

I had to step away from it because packages are just too old.

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2 points

They are. You can get .debs through other sources quite often, though.

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This is what I specifically hate about building Docker images based on Debian. Half your Dockerfile ends up mucking about with third-party repositories, verifying keys, etc.

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Have you considered using testing instead of stable or Siduction?

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I should be more clear: specifically I was rebuilding a Docker image based on Debian and needed Node.js for one build step, then Ruby for another as well as the final image.

In the Dockerfile there were a ton of weird commands for simply installing Node.js and Ruby whereas on Alpine Linux I could simply install the needed versions from apk. I understand it’s preferable to build these from scratch but in the case of Node.js I was looking to simply compile a bunch of assets then throw away the layer.

I could’ve spent a bunch of time figuring it out for Debian but I wanted a smaller image in the end anyway too.

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That’s how I feel about arch, it’s not “stable” but the few issues I’ve had they typically have it fixed with an update within hours.

I do have to clarify when I switched to arch from windows my entire computer was brand new and practically no other distro booted or if it installed it dumped me to a black screen.

After running my server on archlinux with the stable kernel for 7 years I did install Debian on my new server. Zfs just required an older lts kernel than I could get on arch without a ton of hassle. I didn’t need it on my Mac mini with an external hard drive plugged in. From my experience it’s not very different to maintain compared to arch but it’s nice having built in automation instead of writing my own.

Man it’s weird using a system of what I can guess is a bunch of bash scripts on Debian to set things up compared to just using the tools built into and written for systemd.

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it’s not “stable”

“stable” in this case means that it doesn’t change often. Debian stable is called that because no major version changes are performed during the entire cycle of a release.

It doesn’t mean “stable” as in “never crashes”, although Debian is good at that too.

Arch is definitely not “stable” using that definition!

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Yeah, I know the definition. I knew someone would quote it verbatim, someone always does. I quoted it because it’s not the word I would use. I like scheduled or versioned releases better but someone always disagrees with me. As far as I’ve seen it’s a major/minor version release cycle anyway.

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31 points

I just want a Debian-based distro with KDE that’s not poisoned by Canonical’s nonsense

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51 points

Have you tried Debian?

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I’m currently on debian. I wrote this comment as a response to the Debian slander in the meme.

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7 points

Just do a quick simple sudo apt-get install task-kde-desktop

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Man Nvidia users are going to be stoked when the get explicit sync in they’re desktop environments in two years. 😂 They’re have been so many small improvements in the Nvidia drivers up until that point I hope they actually update Nvidia drivers on Debian. I understand some of those improvements are not going to work because of the kernel version and the desktop versions.

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You can choose KDE as desktop environment during Debian installation, or replace whatever DE you installed at any time.

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4 points

MX ?

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4 points

I think you’re looking for Debian. If you want newer packages, run testing instead of stable.

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3 points

KDE Neon?

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5 points

It’s Ubuntu based

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But afaIk without ‘Canonical’s nonsense’, e.g. snap Firefox.

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I’m using mxlinux “ahs” version, it comes with kde at their “ahs” repos for supporting latest hardware and graphics cards. You may also check for the non-ahs, there might be a meta-package for kde plasma and that’s it…

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Why do you need it to be Debian-based?

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Same, that’s why I’m using Q4OS

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I still remember this nice ‘feature’ of XScreenSaver.

However, as of 2016 Iceweasel is Firefox ESR again.

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The packages in Debian are really old. It’s awful.

I was looking at my xzutils package the other month. “So outdated,” I thought, envying the cool hip trendy Arch users.

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Yeah, I had to bail. FreeBSD was awesome for stable yet bleeding-edge packages, a perfect blend of downloading binaries and compiling from source (when needed) with everything in sync.

These days I’m using Alpine Linux almost exclusively, but I miss the convenience of FreeBSD and wish it wasn’t being left behind by the Kool Kidz™.

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