The U.S. Supreme Court’s immunity decision has reportedly emboldened the presumptive GOP nominee to pursue his far-right agenda and authoritarian aims “without fear of punishment or restraint.”

136 points

“without fear of punishment or restraint.”

This is what happens when you normalize a fucking Fascist instead of taking him down when you motherfuckers had the chance.

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I hope he’s ready for the fate of kings. Actually, i take that back. I don’t give a shit what that bloated rapist felon demented sociopath is ready for. His 15 minutes were up in the 80s. Obviously no one in an official capacity is able to take care of fucking business.

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If he does become a true dictator, I wouldn’t be surprised by him dying of old age. The fascist he hands his power down to however, they might see the fate of kings.

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Keep this in mind when you see the bots urging you not to vote against him here on lemmy. Maybe call them out for trying to destroy democracy.

And vote like lives depend on it.

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Voting is the beginning of acting to defend yourself from tyranny, not the end.

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Absolutely, especially those idiotic accounts like respectology and givesomefucks that try and play the “I’m not voting for Biden” but Trump is also a terrible choice angle. Both Side noise for sure (or they truly are that naive and foolish).

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2 points

I think Givesomefucks might be somewhat legit. But the other one… yeah. I can’t agree more.

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I’m pretty new to Lemmy and was really hoping this wouldn’t be the same level of problem as it is everywhere else. Oh what a sweet summer child I am, apparently.

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Yeah, they’re pretty bad here.

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This logic isn’t sustainable.

30 years from now you’ll still be arguing against leftists for not voting for 99% hitler as opposed to 100% hitler.

I swear, liberals will still be screeching about “if you don’t vote for the candidate who wants 3 genocides as opposed to the one who wants 5, you are a Russian bot!”

Lesser evilism is what got us here. The American experiment has run its course and we have a duty to dismantle it.

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How do you think it’ll go down when Trump is elected? Hmmm? Think held going to go easy on them? Or you?

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You can’t say lesser evilism got us here when we chose the greater evil in the election before last. If we kept voting lesser evil maybe, but we don’t consistently. Not nearly enough to make the greater evil not think they stand a chance without lessening themselves.

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2 points

This is a bullshit argument. You want strong progressive change? Run in down races to prove the platform works first. Gain momentum instead of going for the gold ring on your first try.

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“Not getting gold ring on the first try” -> “uninhibited genocide”

New genocide euphamism just dropped.

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57 points

“Ready to”? He’s already been planning to regardless of that SC ruling.

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Could Biden use that ruling to just stay president, but leave them the opportunity to repeal it? Illustrate how dangerous it is while still giving the system a chance to self-correct.

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He could. He won’t.

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Yep, the Court did this all to set the stage for Trump knowing that Biden (or Dems) wouldn’t abuse the new power.

But since they aren’t going to abuse it they should be on every news station every night till the election explaining the danger of the Court. Hold press conferences everyday, make the Republicans have to take a stance on a Supreme Court writing new law instead of adjudicating cases like they are supposed to be doing. Make it so everyone that doesn’t normally follow the news finds out they just set the stage for Trump (or the next even further right fascist) winning.

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The thing is, the Dems CANT abuse the power. If they do, they’ll get crucified by both sides for it. And that’s what the Republicans want. They’re simultaneously making it so they’ll stay in power when its their turn, and daring the Dems to do it knowing it won’t go well for them. Its a win-win in their eyes. Especially while you have some of your people sitting on the highest court in the country.

And this is the flaw with a two-party system. If one party decides to play dirty, the other is either forced to play just as dirty to keep up, (devolving into anarchy) or trying to play by the rules and getting blocked by the other team at every turn.

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No. The ruling seems to have said that he can do anything he likes in his capacity as president, and he can’t be convicted of any criminal offence for it. It didn’t say that the people around him would have to go along with it, or that they’d be immune from prosecution.

It also left convenient wriggle room for the court to arbitrarily decide what constituted “official” actions, rather than him doing something privately, so they’ve effectively granted themselves a get out of jail free card to decide case-by-case in the future

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The president has the power to pardon the people around him.

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True, I didn’t consider that. He’d still have to convince them though, which would be easier said than done if he wanted to entirely disregard the constitution

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1 point

As someone pointed out to me, it’s federal crimes.

So if he asks you to do something that he’s shielded from, but is a state crime, youre SOL

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What is happening now is the system self correcting. It was designed to concentrate immense power in the hands of a select, corrupt, few, all we’re seeing now is the illusions they’ve piled on to that slowly dissolve as they no longer need to keep up pretences.

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19 points

Can we please be done with the term “the quiet part”?

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kibiz0r SLAMMED “the quiet part”

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Hasn’t been actually quiet in a long, long time.

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6 points

And unprecedented!

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And dog whistle!

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