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I will use it. I don’t care what others think. People can use su, sudo, doas, run0 by their choice, and I don’t see why we need a common opinion about it.

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This. One thing Linux is about is personal freedom.

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If you make users sign in too much, they will just make their passwords short and easy to remember, even 24hrs is too much and people bitch about it all the time, especially since we have password managers enforced, meaning every time they need to Auth they need to Auth into their system, Auth into their password manager, copy the password, auth into their phone, look at the 2FA code and type that in.

Doing this every day just to open email is understandably fucking enraging even to me as a security “”“engineer”“”/analyst/${bullshitblueteamemailreaderjob}

Press it harder and they will use simple passwords that will inevitably be passed through to something external (e.g. cockpit which even I can bruteforce) or reused somewhere at some point, and then someone just has to get lucky once and run whatever run0 sudo su <reverse shell bs here> to bypass all protections.

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or reused somewhere everywhere at some point constantly

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I agree with you. If i had to add my password everytime I’d just add my personal account to sudo group.

Good security works with people, not against them.

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SELinux has left the chat.

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No.

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You say that, but, lennart’s Cancer is everywhere.

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ok them go suffer alone in your 2004 distro that can’t update bash because it break the 400 scripts that it use to boot lmao

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I might try run0 for fun, but I don’t think it’ll replace sudo any time soon.
The biggest issue I see is run0 purposely not copying any environment variables except for TERM.
You’d have to specify which editor to use, the current directory, stuff like PATH and HOME every time you run a command.

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Su - then

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I’m not a fan of the idea at all, but come on, it can’t really be that bad. There’s got to be somewhere you can tell it what environment variables to use. Probably something like run0 systemd-edit /usr/system/systemd/systemrun/run0-environment --system-default=system

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it can’t really be that bad.

LoL; you say that… But

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run0 uses systemd-run i don’t remember you can use that directly

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Wouldn’t it be better to just use containers then? Nix and Guix has the exact thing - you get to control what variables you want to pass in.

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You can’t really install packages or modify configs on the host without root. Containers can only do some parts.

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Alias it to pull those in automatically?

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Maybe, but now I still need to remember the alias or distribute it to any machine I’m working on.
Not that difficult if you have everything managed with Ansible or similar anyways, but lots of people likely don’t have that setup.

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Systemd, not linux

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systemd/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, systemd plus Linux

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Fortunately there’s still Artix GNU+Linux :)

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They’ve outarched the Arch

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Laughs in Gentoo

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That’s SystemD+Linux to you!

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