47 points

A settlement. That’ll really put the emissions back in the ground

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Fines clearly don’t work. We need criminal penalties.

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They don’t work because they are super low.

If the fines cost more than what companies gain from cheating, they will be a lot less inclined to cheat.

But in this case, this is a joke fine.

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@mondoman712 $24 per vehicle?

That is a joke.

Fines can work, when people expect the fines to actually hurt.

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7 points

Fines are only a punishment for the poor.

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6 million cars, the fine is $140 million. That’s $24 or so per car. There’s no way that GM saved only $24/car doing this. So the fine is just a cost of doing business.

EDIT:

The company has also voluntarily retired about 50 million tons of carbon dioxide pollution credits, which are issued by the E.P.A. and used by auto companies to make it easier to comply with increasingly stringent federal tailpipe emissions standards. G.M. estimates the value of the loss of the credits at about $300 million, reflecting what it paid for them a decade or so ago. However, the market value of those carbon credits varies, and a more recent government estimate of $86 per credit would put the value at about $4.6 billion.

This is probably where the actual sting to them is.

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Fuck SUVs in particular.

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